Mike: Enjoyed the review. I like your brands (I've got a Yamaha and a Denon!) As for the bass management issue, I guess I never saw Denon's quirk as a big deal. It always worked right for the more critical listening modes (Direct (due to the ability to turn the sub off), DPL, DTS NEO, DD and DTS.) And the sub could be turned down (albeit not off) in the other modes. (It's certainly a nice touch to include the Off setting in all modes for the 3803.) My guess as to why it has never been an issue is that the other DSP modes are not used as much and/or are probably used under less strict listening conditions???