Return of the Joker Uncut (1 Viewer)

[Joshua Moran]

Batman" DVDs coming in 2002. The original cut of "Return of the Joker" with the intact flashback sequence will be out, along with the "Batman & Mr. Freeze: Subzero" feature and the "World's Finest" episodes. As for the big one - the animated series, the article says "WB did say if the interest is there, (season) box sets are highly possible".
Taken from www.darkhorizons.com/news

 

[cafink]

The original cut of "Return of the Joker" with the intact flashback sequence will be out

Are we sure it will really be the original cut? A lot more was removed than just a single flashback sequence.

 

[Adam Tyner]

From the chat on Tuesday:
BATMAN & MR. FREEZE: SUBZERO, BATMAN BEYOND: ROTJ ORIGINAL CUT and THE BATMAN/SUPERMAN MOVIE and BATMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES are all in our Family Group's plans for next year.
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[Joe_C]

Yes, finally they got the balls to release the uncut version of ROTJ. Any idea when in 2002?
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[Robert Floto]

I know that Batman: Mask of the Phantasm was released OAR. I don't know what the OAR of Sub Zero is, but I believe that Return of the Joker was also widescreen.
Will these animated releases be in their OAR?
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[Jeff Kleist]

Actually, Mask of the Phantasm was originally direct to video, and later bumped to theatrical. Over half the animation was done with 1.33:1 in mind, and I find the widescreen version cramped. I'd say that if you asked Paul Dini, OAR is 1.33:1. I met him shortly before it came out at ComicFest, and his presentation on the genesis of the film was fascinating
Of course, both formats are always good!
Jeff Kleist

 

[Tom Brennan]

I'm glad they are at least coming to their senses. I hope that it is truly the full uncut version. Now people can stop wasting their money on bootlegs.
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[James T]

That's good news to me!
Jean McCurdy(I think that's her name) was in charge of a whole bunch of WB cartoons, BB: ROTJ included and said that they would strongly consider the release of the uncut version on DVD...then she got fired...then I lost hope...but BB:ROTJ in 2002 is certainly good news

 

[Rolando]

hate to ask but for those who are to shy to ask:
What was cut and why?

 

[Andy Sheets]

Actually, Mask of the Phantasm was originally direct to video, and later bumped to theatrical. Over half the animation was done with 1.33:1 in mind, and I find the widescreen version cramped. I'd say that if you asked Paul Dini, OAR is 1.33:1. I met him shortly before it came out at ComicFest, and his presentation on the genesis of the film was fascinating

Yeah, I remember seeing Mask of the Phantasm in theaters and it always struck me as having a soft look to it, sort of like the image had been shown under a magnifying glass. When I got the VHS, it actually looked a good deal sharper. The dvd seems the same: the widescreen version is soft like the theatrical presentation. I always did wonder if this had to do with the film being altered from its original direct-to-video status.

 

[Jeff Swindoll]

Details on the cuts :
http://www.toonzone.net/worldsfinest.../rotjcuts.html
Cheers.
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[Chris S]

O' this is definitely good news! I'm really glad Warner has the guts to release ROTJ uncut. I wonder if Paul Dini and the group will record a new commentary so that it will fit with this version..

In any case I'm thrilled. As for Sub-Zero it was a direct-to-video release, just like Phantasm was suppose to be, so my guess is that it's OAR is probably 133:1. I believe that it was done by the same Japanese studio as ROTJ so they might have animated them in a wider format, but that would only be a guess.
As for the original series, is there a petition started up for this yet? Chris
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[Adam Tyner]

As for the original series, is there a petition started up for this yet?

Warner said in Tuesday's chat that the original series would be released next year. Online petitions are worthless, IMO.
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[Michael St. Clair]

Online petitions are worthless, IMO.

I recently received an email from someone who has produced several high-profile video releases. He was passing some info along to me some info confirming some new activity in the area of a certain series of DVD releases that had previously been stagnant. He listed reasons why the studio had reconsidered and decided to move ahead on these releases. One of the reasons he listed was the large response a certain online petition had received.
Then again, there are dozens of other online petitions with large responses which seem to accomplish nothing, at least not so far.
They may be worthless 90% of the time, but sometimes they can definitely make a difference.

 

[Tom Brennan]

The animated Sub Zero was originally intended for a theatrical release, but then was changed to direct to video. I wasn't aware that it was released on Laser at all. I hope the DVD is widescreen.
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[David Werner]

Any updates on release dates on this or anamorphic transfer news?

 

[Brian Cruz]

FYI, Mask of the Phantasm, Sub-Zero, Return of the Joker and the new Justice League series are all animated 4:3, so any widescreen presentation involves matting the top and bottom of the picture. Although none of them were animated in widescreen, they were all animated to allow for widescreen.

 

[David Lambert]

Brian, you are correct in that they are all "animated to allow for widescreen". But Justice League was specifically composed for the WS presentation. They pitched it as a WS show, and convinced the network to buy it that way. It's drawn with WS in mind, top-to-bottom. Any DVD showing it otherwise won't be OAR!!

 

[Adam Lenhardt]

It's drawn with WS in mind, top-to-bottom. Any DVD showing it otherwise won't be OAR!!

I disagree with that... have you watched any of the full screen presentations? I think (and this is just my opinion) it looks a heck of a lot better framing wise. No tips of heads chopped off, etc.

 

[Michael St. Clair]

JL looks way better in 4:3.