Restored METROPOLIS really coming to DVD

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  1. Richard Carnahan

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    From alt.movies.silent:
    Ok this must be the worst kept "secret" around but YES Kino IS
    releasing the resored METROPOLIS. It will open in THEATERS first,
    begining
    at the Film Forum in New York on July 28. We hope to play all major
    cities in the summer & Fall. Ironically this will be the first really
    commercial re-release of silent film since the Moroder "Metropolis" in
    87. And while I hate to annoy the purist out there the film will run
    at 24 frames as there are virtually NO commercial theaters that could
    run anything else and the print has the original 1927 Orchestral score
    on the sound track. Running time is AROUND 118 but as they are just
    finishing the Engish titles I can't be more accurate

    As for DVD & Video, that will come out in EARLY 2003 and will
    be somewhere around 20 frames, in any event it is supposed to run
    148 minutes. There will also be a one hour documentary on the
    restoration of the film produced by Enno Patalas

    and before the Moroder guy asks NO WE ARE NOT OFFERING ANY ALTERNATE
    VERSIONS

    See some of you in Columbus this weekend

    Jessica
     
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    Great news!, that 5 U$ version is really bad....
     
  3. oscar_merkx

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    anybody have a direct link to this
     
  4. JohnAD

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    Kewl, although it would be nice to have a copy of the Moroder version as well.

    John.
     
  5. Jeff_HR

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    I'll buy any Fritz Lang film! But this is a MUST BUY!!!!![​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    This is great!

    Kino, along with Blackhawk, has released THE best silent DVDs. Plus, I think they have exclusive rights to the Transit Films library (which Metropolis is part of) for DVD.

    I can't wait to see how the new digitally restored version looks...the screen grabs on Alpha-Omega's website look fantastic.

     
  7. Larry Sutliff

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    Wonderful news! I have a nice S-VHS copy of the French DVD, but I would love to have a DVD of this, and there isn't any company that treats Silent films better than Kino.
     
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    This is great news. I thought the Moroder version had its moments but I'll take the "original" (or as close to original as possible) cut any day of the week.
     
  9. Mark Zimmer

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    Moroder's version did have the merit of incorporating footage that is not part of the Museum of Modern Art print (the basis of the Madacy disc and the version usually seen in the US). Whether that footage is in the Munich restoration, I haven't been able to determine, but I know that the fellow who owns it wasn't contacted by them so it may not be there.

    It's so sad that this work was so badly truncated---it's still missing well over half an hour of its running time, even in the restored version, and that's probably lost forever. The restoration does do a nice job of filling in the subplots that were cut out and help makes some sense of Rotwang's motivations. At least the censor approval records still exist so we know what the original intertitles were and can get an idea of what was supposed to be present.
     
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  11. Jason Seaver

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    Similarly, the Harvard Film Archive here in Cambridge can - indeed, during their recent Lang program, they adjusted the film speed on Spione between shows - but it's not a commercial theater. This would probably play at the Brattle Theater, and I don't know what the rear-projection equipment there is capable of.

    I suppose it would be possible to make prints where every fifth frame was doubled up so that it could be projected with typical equipment, but I imagine that might look even worse than everyone moving too fast.
     
  12. Rich Malloy

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    I'm having a real hard time working up any excitement for the theatrical release, though I'm certainly ecstatic for the DVD.

    24fps will ruin the effect of this film. 24fps is at least 20% faster than "Metropolis" should be projected (either 18 or 20fps, I forget). This speed-up destroys every aspect of the film far more than panning/scanning and other cinematic defacements. And I'm not speaking subjectively, as in "For me, running the film at 24fps will ruin the effect..."; I'm saying that no one who sees this film projected at that speed can say they've truly seen it. It'll fly by all those quick-edited sections far too fast for them to be effective, and the overall effect will be, all-too-often, simply comical.

    There are theaters equipped to show this film correctly. Not only the Silent Film Theater in L.A., but also most museums around the country. While I'm all for exposing as many people as possible to great movies, a screwed up projection that will strike most as being akin to a Benny Hill romp and will reinforce the notion that silent films, however grave or fantastic the subject matter, all look like herky-jerky, sped-up silly symphonies - this is not desireable IMO.
     
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    Patrick:

    All of the versions/prints that I have seen have been butchered in some way or another. It would be nice to have both a restored version and the Moroder version, to see what was changed. I agree with you that Kino rules. Now if we could only get OAR versions of Juzo Itami's films on DVD...

    John.
     
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    I have to admit that I am a fan of the Moroder version but I will certainly buy the Kino dvd when it is ready. After seeing the awful job on the low budget release and subsequently taking it back, I need a good looking (and sounding) print of this important work.

    I think it's a longshot to see the Moroder on dvd.
     
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    Not a big fan of the musical version, though I love Pat Benatar's "Here's My Heart."

    When this comes as a pre-order it will be one that I won't even need a second to think about. The film was way ahead of it's time and remains a beautiful testament of the early days of cinema.
     
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    saw the version with the 80's music...........

    should be cool to see this and buy this on dvd when it is restored
     
  18. Mark Zimmer

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    Heck, Metropolis just played here at the Madison Civic Center at 20 fps (which is perfect--not too draggy, and the exciting parts are slightly fast). So there are theaters that can do it. I think it's more a desire to be able to use the canned soundtrack, which requires a projector that runs 24 fps. Simple as that.
     
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    Bad news from Glenn Erickson (The DVD Savant), who originally posted that the DVD would indeed be 20fps, He now reports the following:
    The above is from: http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/spec.html
    Don't tell Kino, but I'm still going to buy it. [​IMG]
     
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