Resident Evil / Biohazard 1.5 (1 Viewer)

[Tom-G]

Just wondering if anyone out there has been lucky enough to play the beta version of RE 1.5. I recently got Biohazard Director's Cut Dual Shock and it contains a few different movie clips of the game. After seeing it, I want to play it now more than ever! If you have played it, let me know how it is. I know some copies got out even though they weren't supposed to. I believe they were sent to video game mags and such at the time. Also, if anyone knows where to get one, if you could point me in the right direction I'd be eternally grateful!

 

[BrianB]

This isn't the forum to ask for copies of it - it's pirated software, which goes against the rules of the HTF.
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[Morgan Jolley]

I'm not sure if the game got far enough to get a good beta copy available anyway. I think it was around 70% done before it was canned.
I wish that companies would release these games, even in incomplete form, just so we could play them. I would give anything to play a complete working version of Thrill Kill for PSX (I know someone who has, but it was a pirated beta copy, and she (yes, it was a girl) said it really cool). We can only hope.

 

[Marc Alexander]

I believe I have this demo. However, it is simply the first 10 minutes or so of what is now Resident Evil 2. Very incomplete. I don't see any reason why anyone would want it.

 

[Morgan Jolley]

Actually, the demo that comes with REirector's Cut (or Dual Shock) is just Resident Evil 2, not 1.5. 1.5 had already been cancelled by the time they released REC.

 

[Tom-G]

Hey BrianB, how can this be pirated software if the game NEVER came out? A game has to be released before it can be possible to "pirate" copies. If Capcom wants to bring this game out with some sort of collection, I'll gladly buy the game, until then I'll never get to play it.

 

[Christian Behrens]

Well, HalfLife for DC was basically finished... if copies are floating around somewhere, they are still illegal copies, even if you cannot buy the game.
It's the publisher's decision what to do with it. If they want to bury it never-to-be-seen-again, then - as much as a lot of people would hate it - they can, because they own it.
But back to the original discussion...
-Christian

 

[Morgan Jolley]

Actually, some magazines and websites had already reviewed the final version of Half Life for DC before they decided to can it. The entire project was turned into a tax write-off and they decided to focus more people on the PS2 version.
Thrill Kill was nearing being finished and some people got ahold of a near final copy missing only a few moves and such. That copy ended up on the internet and I know people who have played it.
Earthbound Zero (Mother in Japan) for NES was actually completed and was in English but they decided not to release it. Some guy bought the rights to the ROM of it from Nintendo. I heard he made copies of the game on cartridges and people can actually play it on the original NES (if you can find one).

 

[BrianB]

Hey BrianB, how can this be pirated software if the game NEVER came out? A game has to be released before it can be possible to "pirate" copies. If Capcom wants to bring this game out with some sort of collection, I'll gladly buy the game, until then I'll never get to play it.

Tough.
You have *zero* rights to play/own that game. If Capcom chose not to release it, then it's gone, zip, dead - you have *no right* to a copy of it.
Games are frequently cancelled for numerous reasons. The publisher/developer cancelling them is deciding there & then that you have *no* right to that piece of software. It doesn't have to come out for it to be a pirate copy - are the various copies of beta software, or games before they hit the shops not 'pirate' copies? They sure are.
Thrill Kill's the same - the public has no 'right' to that software. EA, in their wisdom, chose not to publish it - which is their right as a publisher. Not releasing it only made an artificial demand for it - if it'd been released, it'd have faded into relative obscurity.
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[Morgan Jolley]

Resident Evil 1.5 was cancelled because it was too similar to the first and wasn't as scary (more zombies on screen meant lower poly counts which meant not as scary looking). GameSpot has a section about dead games, and this one is in there.
Thrill Kill would probably have been a neat game, with the four player Thrill Kill mode and all, but the reason it got cancelled less than a month before its release was because the company making it was bought by another company, who then cancelled the game because it didn't want bad press. The game wasn't out yet and I think there were already protests (just like State of Emergency got protests). I would still love to own a full, working copy.

 

[Kelley_B]

If you want to play Thrill Kill(which I have and its awful!) play an equally awful title which did get published and runs on Thrill Kill's engine and was made by the TK ppl, and that is the PSX Wu Tang fighting game.

 

[BrianB]

(just like State of Emergency got protests)

Heh. Don't believe the hype. "State of Emergency" is being published by Rockstar/Take Two, masters of media hype & manipulation.
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[Morgan Jolley]

I can't wait to see what kind of protests Grand Theft Auto 3 gets. Its supposed to be the most violent published game, or somewhere around there.

 

[Kelley_B]

quote: Heh. Don't believe the hype. "State of Emergency" is being published by Rockstar/Take Two, masters of media hype & manipulation.
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Might you be saying that "State..." isn't cracked up to all that they claim it is? Well i am more worried about GTA3 making the transition from 2D to 3D, well Brian do you think your ol' lads can pull it off?
[Edited last by Kelley_B on August 31, 2001 at 03:47 PM]

 

[Morgan Jolley]

GTA3 has an overhead mode that looks just like GTA1 and 2. Don't be worried, its just like the first two games, only on the PS2.

 

[Tom-G]

ok, BrainB you obviously are an employee of some sort of a software company, otherwise you wouldn't take the time out to talk about rights this and rights that. All I'm telling you is that there are video game fans out there willing to pay money to play the old Resident Evil 2, if Capcom decides they don't want to bring it out in some form, that's fine with me, I'll just hunt down a beta somewhere and play it anyway. I don't give a crap what you or anyone else says. If Capcom is too stupid to not bring it out, it's their loss. And don't give me some BS line about how it won't sell. Why did they release those hideous DC shooters Giga Wing, Giga Wing 2 Gunbird 2, etc? Yeah, I think I'd rather play a scrapped version of RE2 than some retro shooter than can't hold a candle to old ones. If they're not concerned about making a profit with the game, then they can't complain if I play it. I'm not wasting my time replying to your posts anymore, so I'll check you later. OUT.

 

[Dave F]

That was just a mean post.
I don't work at a software company, and I'll go ahead and say it: you have no *right* to play the game. The game company paid for all of the development and owns the game. If they decide to can it, that's it. Dem's the breaks. If you decide to hunt down a pirated copy, that's your own business, but don't try to justify it here. It's pirating stolen material, plain and simple.
And I would love to hear the business proposal that would garner a profit for an old, clunky, unfinished game that would be a nightmare for technical support.
-Dave
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[BrianB]

Might you be saying that "State..." isn't cracked up to all that they claim it is?

Sorry, that wasn't what I was meaning at all. Instead, I was suggesting that the 'protests' at State of Emergency were hype from its publisher rather than real protests... Rockstar are experts at that sort of hype. I haven't played SoE myself, the last time I saw it, it had a different name, different concept & different designer (AFAIK). Feedback from a mate was that it was pretty fun, if a little repetitive.
As for GTA3, dunno. It's in capable hands. Last I heard its gore is very over the top, but the core gameplay is similar to the first two. I think the top down camera in it is a gimmick rather than an option suitable for playing it though

And TomG, I'm not going to lower myself to your level. Let's just agree to disagree on intellectual property rights, and the right of a creator to deny others access to their work.
And yes, I do work for 'some sort of software company'.
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[Morgan Jolley]

When a company decides not to release a game (Thrill Kill, Resident Evil 1.5, Half-Life for DC) they turn it into a tax write-off. Not releasing the game would be benficial to them.
The reason they didn't release the game is because it was not up to par with the first game. I personally could care less if they release it or not. If they wanted the Resident Evil name to be on it, they would have released it. I trust that Capcom knows what they're doing.
And that post was a little harsh.