Reference Discs, Past and Present

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  1. Ravi K

    Ravi K Supporting Actor

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    What are the current reference discs for video and audio? Which discs from past years still hold up, and which discs no longer look that good? The Fifth Element was considered a very good disc for a long time, until the Superbit bested it. Same with the new Toy Story DVD.
     
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    For picture and sound :

    black hawk down r3 superbit collectors ed (best disc ever made imho)

    daredevil dc in dts

    Blade r3 dts ltd ed

    top gun 2 disc


    Sound mixing masterclass :

    Mi2: the bike chase

    x2 dts : inside the x jet

    underworld r2 dts : all of it !

    T2 ultimate ed dts : pick a scene

    strange days : the whole movie is a what to do right lesson



    all my personal faves.
    My fifth element superbit gets no play now i have a wmv-hd promo copy [​IMG]
     
  4. Mark Lucas

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    Blade, Blade II, Se7en(SE), Starship Troopers, are a few that come to mind. Blade came out in '98 and it's still awesome.

    Discs that no longer look good but were considered reference at the time... Hmm. Probably any of the first dvds that got a 5 for PQ in WSR.
     
  5. Rolando

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    Actually I would love to get a list of discs to use to test PQ.

    Got a new TV and I am concerned that the picture has too much "noise", to many scan lines. there seem to be a lot of edge enhancement "halos". Want to be sure it is not the TV. what are great transfers that if look bad on my set I will KNOW there is something up with it.
     
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    Best picture disc (not a direct from digital source animated thing, a live action film release):

    Black Hawk Down or Matrix Reloaded

    Best sound mix: Still manages to be The Haunting DTS-ES (crap film, best sound mix) with honourable mentions to Return Of The King Extended Edition DTS mix and for older films, Lawrence Of Arabia (remastered sound mix is just pure gold on DVD). I still use that Haunting DVD to calibrate my system, and ROTK to give it a test run. Good way to spend an afternoon, if you ask me.

    Worst sound mix that should have been kick-ass: Star Wars trilogy OT DVD. THX and Dolby EX should have made this a dead set cert to be the best sounding audio release of the last few years. Instead, its a bass-heavy "look what we did by tinkering a little" mix that doesnt justify the use of the Dolby symbol. Say what you want, but after the opening crawl and spaceship flyby, the film remains fairly thin all over for definition and smooth dynamic range.
     
  7. Rolando

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    shoot, it was late last night but tried out Matrix reloaded. I have to admit I was impressed with the picture. This means that Constantine is a pretty bad transfer.

    anyone have other suggestions for good smooth transfers?
     
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    I think American Graffiti is possibly the most flawless DVD I've seen. Considering the grainier nature of Techniscope and the vintage, I'm amazed by how well it was transfered. Absolutely no digital artifacts, but the proper grain texture remains.

    As for sound, Around the World in 80 Days is about as perfect as 5.1 can get.
     
  9. Ed St. Clair

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    Thank you for starting this thread. I was thinking of what Early Reference Discs, would survie to this day, as well just this week.

    For new PQ Reference add:
    Sin City
    GWtW
    The Incredibles

    Was wondering if titles like:
    Mars Attacks
    TFE
    etc.
    still held up to today's standard?
     
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    just re-watching any given sunday and just to prove im not all about the dts 10/10 pq and dolby 5.1
     
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    I always use Traing Day for PQ tests.
     
  12. Brian_cyberbri

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    It sounds like you need to calibrate your TV, then. Either that, or have it professionally done.
    Check here for a basic guide on user menu controls, test discs, and what professional calibration entails.

    For noise/halos, make sure your Sharpness setting isn't up too high. And make sure you are using component cables and progressive scan from your DVD player. Turn any picture enhancement features off in your DVD player, and check out any picture enhancement features on your TV to make sure they aren't hurting more than they help.


    For DVDs with amazing video, here are some suggestions:

    Sin City
    THX1138 (new re-release)
    Star Wars Ep 2, 4-6
    The Incredibles
    Fifth Element Superbit/Ult Ed
    Chronicles of Riddick (Dir Cut)
    Collateral
    Seabiscuit
    Moulin Rouge
    Toy Story 1 (new re-release)


    Also, here is a list of reference video quality DVDs (see 'nominees' below list as well)
     
  13. Rolando

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    Hi Brian,

    actually I am having trouble with the new TV.

    If you feel like reading a novel take a look at this post about my trying to troubleshoot for my new Hitachi 57F520.

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=585328

    short version is Cable TV and a few Non-Anamorphoc DVDs (as well as non-anamorphic, trailers and documentaries) look horrible. The picture, especially the faces looks like I am looking through one of those ridged "hologram" cards. Vertical scan lines galore!
     
  14. Brian_cyberbri

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    I'll respond over there.
     
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    wait till you guys see robots.

    cant wait to see the htf review.
    robots has spectacular pq.
     
  16. Harold Wazzu

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    I can only really comment on audio as I have only a 27" EDTV, so here goes:

    Dances with Wolves - DTS version
    Gladiator - DTS-ES version
    Master & Commander
    Open Range
    Open Water - DTS-ES in the ocean
    Panic Room
    Pearl Harbor - battle scenes
    Saving Private Ryan
    Star Wars - A Musical Journey
    Top Gun - DTS version
    True Lies
    Twister
    U-571 (depth charges)

    Those are just the ones I can think of from memory that I liked from my collection, there are probably more that I missed.
     
  17. Mark Lucas

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    Talking about current reference discs is boring. What about discs from 6-8 years ago that still hold up today? Contact, Blade, Pleasantville, Lost in Space, Twister, Eraser, Dark City, The Fifth Element(1st release), etc.
     

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