Red Sox acquire Giambi!

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  1. Jason Seaver

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    Okay, it's Little G (Jeremy), but they got him for a minor-league pitcher who's four weeks off of surgery. Still, unless reports of his head-caseness have been understated, this is some serious OPS being added to the line-up. And, hey, I don't think the Red Sox and Yankees have had brothers at the same position since Dom & Joe Dimaggio. Could be fun.

    I'm liking this... The potential line-up now looks like:

    CF Johnny Damon
    2B Todd Walker
    SS Nomar Garciaparra
    DH Manny Ramirez
    1B Jeremy Giambi
    LF Cliff Floyd
    3B Shea Hillenbrand
    RF Trot Nixon
    C Jason Varitek

    ... presuming they re-sign Floyd. And, if the Red Sox can trade Hillenbrand while people still think he's a good player, it could get better.
     
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    That would be a terrific lineup. I never understood why Giambi was used so little when he is obviously an effective player.

    Is this the first move that Epstein has made?
     
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    i don't think he's a very good fielder. the phillies still used travis lee at first so that's not saying much for jeremy.
     
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    Oh, Shea Hillenbrand isn't that bad! My wife has some friends affiliated with people the Red Sox organization, and she is very worried that the Sox are going to get rid of Trot Nixon (who is her all time favorite player). I'd much rather see them get rid of someone like Rickey Henderson (that is, if anyone wants him [​IMG])
     
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    he's not a head case i watched the phils all year.
    he should have been playing over travis lee.

    the only thing that kept him out of the lineup is his glove he is not a very good first sacker.

    he does havea a great on base %.

    so look for him to get alot of walks.
     
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    The bullpen still blows and Epstein actually resigned Frank Castillo! Ugh. Hopefully, Nixon can get them a reliever.
     
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    So far Epstein is making positive moves , Walker & Giambi.

     
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    I haven't followed Jeremy's career all that closely, but a little homework shows me that his 1B glove isn't all that bad. From 2000 to 2002, he played 46 games at first and had four Es against 298 POs.
    He doesn't seem to get a lot of ABs. I don't like these numbers...347 hits lifetime against 314 strikeouts. Only a .269 lifetime BA.
    In 2001: 371 ABs in 124 games
    In 2002: 313 ABs in 124 games
    I like the Todd Walker signing a lot. I think that was Epstein's FIRST move. Pretty solid up the middle with Damon, Garciaparra, Walker and Varitek.
    I'd say keep Hillenbrand but move Floyd for pitching. Anyone who can add quality innings as a starter, reliever, or closer would be what puts this line-up in the playoffs.
    I DO like the Giambi vs. Giambi karma, though. That's cool.
    And, Jason! You REALLY made my heart skip a couple beats with that thread title! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Well, Floyd's still a free agent, although he's been offered arbitration, so they can't really "move" him. Hillenbrand is really their most trade-able commodity.
    As for pitching, I'm wondering if signing José Contreras would push Burkett or Fossum into the bullpen. The Pedro/Lowe/Wakefield/Fossum/Burkett rotation is certainly one I can live with, but you wouldn't have to give up a draft pick for Contreras (or Godzilla Matsui, for that matter).
     
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    I like the Giambi pickup. He's a pretty poor fielder, but that's what 1B is for! I'm still not sure why Beane traded him... I hope not to find out why anytime soon either!
    BA is a glamarous, but not terribly useful statistic. It shows talent, for sure, but not production.
    I'm sure Epstein is trying very hard to trade Hillenbrand for something useful; he's fairly old, not a great fielder, and has most likely already peaked. Hopefully some GM won't see that though.
    I'd like to see Fossum in the rotation. He has a decent fastball, a great slider and working on a few other pitches. He could be a good 3rd starter.
    And Epstein... Even if the Sox win the series this year, he STILL won't be the most famous Brookline native. [​IMG]
     
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    giambi isn't an everyday 1st baseman. the phillies acquired him for absolutely nothing last season.
     
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    And neither are Brian Daubauch or Shea Hillenbrand.
     
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    good point...and the Bosox also acquired him for nothing...he can hit though...
     
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    Had the BoSox acquired Jason Giambi, I would have expected the Yankees to never win a World Series again. [​IMG]
    Seriously, Jeremy Giambi is a great pick-up for the Sox.
     
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    And JASON Giambi is something terrible at 1B too... but both of 'em are better than Frank Thomas! [​IMG]
    I don't see the point of Castillo either -- He really looked washed up. I don't know what they signed him for; I'm guessing... and hoping... not much.
     
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    Actually, one of the least impressive first basemen I remember was Sam Horn of the Red Sox. [​IMG]
     
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