Pre-Order Red Dawn Collector's Edition (1984) (4k UHD) Available for Preorder (1 Viewer)

[Ronald Epstein]

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[Desslar]

Wonder if there's any extra footage. Might be time to finally buy this.

 

[Dick]

God, how I h-a-t-e this movie.

 

[Jeffrey D]

God, how I h-a-t-e this movie.

Never have seen it, for whatever reason.

 

[Robert Crawford]

God, how I h-a-t-e this movie.

Well, that's one person that won't be buying this 4K disc.

 

[Stephen_J_H]

Well, that's one person that won't be buying this 4K disc.

I try really hard not to comment on titles I openly loathe. I don't openly loathe Red Dawn and if the price is right I may pick it up. Life is too short to complain about title X.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I try really hard not to comment on titles I openly loathe. I don't openly loathe Red Dawn and if the price is right I may pick it up. Life is too short to complain about title X.

I think most of us do, but then there are some people that likes to express their passion.

 

[Tino]

I’ve loved this film since my first viewing on opening day in 1984. Tons of fun. I’ll be buying day one for sure.

 

[Dick]

I think most of us do, but then there are some people that likes to express their passion.

Yes, I do. But only for a very few particular titles on this forum. Generally, I keep quiet, out of respect for those who might like it. But RED DAWN, which I saw theatrically in '84, rubbed me in a really bad way. John Milius could be a good writer and even occasionally a good director, but too much of the time his films are jingoistic as hell, the same way the more offensive (to me) John Wayne movies are.

I'm all done. I'll try to repress this sort of comment in future.

 

[dpippel]

WOLVERINES!!!

 

[Walter Kittel]

Yes, I do. But only for a very few particular titles on this forum. Generally, I keep quiet, out of respect for those who might like it. But RED DAWN, which I saw theatrically in '84, rubbed me in a really bad way. John Milius could be a good writer and even occasionally a good director, but too much of the time his films are jingoistic as hell, the same way the more offensive (to me) John Wayne movies are.

Agreed. Red Dawn is a diverting enough action film and on that level I enjoy it (mostly on the basis of a pretty solid cast), but (I think) you can't treat the film's scenario as anything approaching reality. In that regard, it doesn't actually differ from a LOT of action cinema.

I'm all done. I'll try to repress this sort of comment in future.

No problems. Discussion is why we are here.


In terms of realism, Red Dawn would be a good double bill with Chuck Norris' Invasion U.S.A.


- Walter.

 

[Desslar]

Invasion U.S.A. is an entertaining cheesefest, like most of Chuck's 70s/80s movies, but it certainly doesn't put the same effort into realizing its scenario that Red Dawn does, realistic or not.

I didn't like the movie that much when I first saw it, as I thought it strained credibility to have a handful of teenagers successfully thwarting professional soldiers repeatedly, but decades of news reporting on various insurgencies around the world has made that seem a little less improbable.

What stands out to me from the film is that, unlike most U.S. action films, the heroes are not bulletproof. That raises the stakes of the narrative considerably. In contrast, through 3 Expendables films (love the second one), I believe only one (minor) hero died, and not even in battle. That's a bit silly.

 

[Worth]

...But RED DAWN, which I saw theatrically in '84, rubbed me in a really bad way. John Milius could be a good writer and even occasionally a good director, but too much of the time his films are jingoistic as hell, the same way the more offensive (to me) John Wayne movies are...

Based on the early promotional material, I assumed that it was a satire, until I watched it and realised it most definitely was not.

 

[ScottJH]

My copy showed up from Target yesterday. Shout Factory might be playing a little loose with the whole "NEW 4k Scan From The Original Camera Negative" phrase. Scenes without subtitles look like a 4k OCN scan but those with subtitles, which are quite a few, look like they suffer from generation loss due to burned in subtitles. Overall happy to have it since I never had the previous Shout Select release just the 1st MGM/Fox one it's just the PQ variance is disappointing. Also the packaging states a Dolby Atmos track no dice just DTS-HD MA 5.1 & 2.0

 

[cineMANIAC]

Based on the early promotional material, I assumed that it was a satire, until I watched it and realised it most definitely was not.

Would you have enjoyed the film had it been a satire? Personally, I prefer films without messages or agendas. Movies are just more fun as popcorn entertainment.

 

[Stephen_J_H]

Would you have enjoyed the film had it been a satire? Personally, I prefer films without messages or agendas. Movies are just more fun as popcorn entertainment.

Based on the early promotional material, I assumed that it was a satire, until I watched it and realised it most definitely was not.

I don't think Red Dawn can be characterised as not having an agenda. Milius is always engaging in political commentary, even when some perceive his films as "popcorn entertainment."

 

[Worth]

Would you have enjoyed the film had it been a satire? Personally, I prefer films without messages or agendas. Movies are just more fun as popcorn entertainment.

You don't think Red Dawn has an agenda?

 

[Robert Crawford]

No political references are allowed on this forum.

 

[JoshZ]

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[Robert Crawford]

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