OK, I talked about getting a Pioneer Elite 45tx in front of a friend and a roommate of his who believes that Elites are definitely not the 'cream of the crop' or 'compare to Denon or Yamaha' as he has a Yamaha reciever. To begin with I haven't purchased or auditioned a amp as of yet so my opinions are completly unbiased. I'm asking you all before totally sticking my head out on the line for Pioneer is; are their riecevers worth the 'Elite' name? He seams to say no. Even with THX certification. He says that doesn't seem to matter as no DVD's are in THX, atleast very few of them are. Since I'm new to this forum I was wondering if any of you could help me argue this discussion. Not argue that Pioneer 'Elite' products are superior but at least that the 'Elite' give a good run for the money and performance of other manufacturers such as Yamahah, Denon and H&K receivers as he says. I'm not lookng for the "Pioneer 'Elite' is superior in every way". But, looking for a response that they are a worthy opponent of denon, Yamaha, hardon Kardon or any other reciever you throw at them for the same price range, no matter what price range they fall under. Am I fighting a loosing battle here? Or are my recommendations falling on deaf ears like recommending Bose to be a good speaker in its price range? and is 'Elite' just a name like Bose that marketing takes care of and screw the quality?