Rebecca: Criterion vs. Anchor Bay Screen Captures

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  1. Gary Tooze

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    Hello,
    I am not really into the technical details of this, but as so many people asked I did another screen capture comparison for the Criterion and Anchor Bay "Rebecca" DVDs, similar to the Notorious one that I did.
    Often I cannot tell too much difference but at time the Criterion is quite striking in its sharpness. It looks to be like a question of contrasts... but it may just be my eyes.
    Major notes of difference:
    1) Picture Boxed Credits same as Notorious
    2) Inclusion in Criterion of Selznick "White House" opening ( also "picture boxed" )
    3) Title font change...
    You may notice more... I have about 10 captures of each DVD CLICK HERE TO ACCESS.
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  2. Samuel Des

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    Those screen captures show some striking differences. I was particularly interested in the font change. What happened there?
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    Wow - thanks, Gary!!!
    I'm still a'waitin delivery of my REBECCA (how the hell did you get yours so soon?), but I'm pleased as punch to see those screen captures. Although I was always happy with the Anchor Bay transfer, when put up against the Criterion it's like the difference between watching television and watching film. Even on my cheesy work monitor, Criterion's looks to be as silky and textured as a perfectly-projected, pristine, nitrate print. Gorgeous.
     
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    Interesting --
    Did you notice the different wording on the first screens:
    "picturization" vs. "production"
    And the "Rebecca" title font on the AB version matches the cover of the Criterion DVD, but not the AB cover.
    Looks like there is much less film grain apparent on the Criterion of REBECCA (1940) than there is on NOTORIOUS (1946). Different stock I presume.
     
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    You've whetted my appetite Gary! Rebecca is, along with Lifeboat, one of my favorite early Hitchcock films and was nearly feverish when it was announced as a two disc set. The digitalbits proclaims this release as one of Criterion's best ever. Do you agree? I wish mine would get here already!
    Have you had a chance to check out Disc 2 yet? If so, what would you consider the highlight(s)? And while we're at it, how DID you get your copy so early? [​IMG]
     
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    The Criterion transfer is amazing. Its no longer a black and white film, but one with shades of gray. Also, notice that you can clearly read the month of the magazine in the Criterion transfer, but not the Anchor Bay one.
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    I, too, am confused by the 1 disc/2 disc question concerning Rebecca. I was under the impression that they were all just packed-to-the-rafters dual layer discs.
    Also, while I appreciate that some view the AB release as superior in terms of quality (lack of film grain, no windowboxing), I have to very respectfully disagree on the CC release being generally inferior. Criterion's packaging and supplements make purchasing the CC versions a no-brainer. IMO, IMO, IMO.... [​IMG]
    Then again perhaps it is my collector's mentality stepping in.... [​IMG]
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    There was confusion at first at some of the DVD news sites that mixed up some of the features of Notorious and Rebecca. I don't think Criterion ever intended Notorious to be 2-disc. I would expect Suspicion to be single disc as well.
    Here is a picture of the back cover of REBECCA:
    http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_ite...4&tab=5&back=1
     
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    Blacks appear deeper on the AB release, at least on your example shots.
     
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    All the AB screenshots appear to be zoomed in somewhat, so the Criterion version even reveals more picture information.
     
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    On Criterion's website (and on the back of the DVD itself), under SPECIAL FEATURES, it proclaims "Double Disc Set" in bold type.
     
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    The Criterion DVD of this film is the first time the original credits have been seen since its initial release. They also have the United Artists name since this film was originally released by them. I think the credits were redone for the 1-85 presentation and to remove the UA credit. Anyway, these original credits were just recently restored by Disney's restorationist, Scott MacQueen. They were put back in after his film restoration, so I don't think this is mentioned in any of the write-ups or discussions within this package. I also believe they used MacQueen's transfer.
     
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    The special features regarding Rebecca's handwriting (!) on the Criterion disc make it clear that the revised titles are from the 1955 re-release, which is what the Anchor Bay disc uses.
    My review of the set is up at http://www.digitallyobsessed.com as the featured DVD of the week.
     
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    just looked at the comparison screen-captures at the link above.

    Is it just me or do some others out there actually prefer the "deeper" looking image of the older version? The resolution and image purity were very close between the two...and the blacker blacks of the older version seem more satisfying somehow.

    It really doesn't look like a night-and-day improvement with the new Criterion (which I'm ordering anyway for the extras if nothing more).

    -dave
     

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