RCA-HDV5000 player!

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  1. Robert Crawford

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    So far I haven't experienced any glitches such as freezeups. As I get more familiar with this player and play more HD discs on it, I will continue to post my observations. Today, I'm going to compare the SD DVD versus the HD DVD of "The Bourne Supremacy" and "Apollo 13". I'll post my thoughts on those comparisons by tonight. Also, from my experiences the other day with "Apollo 13" the picture quality reminded me when I watched that film at an Imax theater. I was very impressed by it.

    If other HD players have already done some comparisons, please, feel free to post your thoughts because I'm sure your experiences will be very interesting to your fellow owners as well as to those thinking about buying into this format.




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  2. Ronald Epstein

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    Robert,

    For some reason I was under the impression you bought the
    Toshiba HD-A1.

    Out of curiosity, why did you choose the RCA over the Toshiba?

    Looking forward to reading your comparisons between both
    formats. I am really trying to get an idea just how dramatic
    the picture quality is above standard DVD. In other words, is
    it just as dramatic as VHS -> DVD? Perhaps LASERDISC-DVD?

    Have fun!
     
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    Is this just a rebadged Toshiba, or does it really have DVD Audio capabilities?

    Ron, it varies to my eyes, sometimes even in the same movie. To wit: something Mr. Harris pointed out regarding Blazing Saddles. The opticals used in the title sequence led to grainy backgrounds that did not look special at all. Then as soon as it switched to production footage, a veil was lifted, and it was like you were looking through a 2.35x1 window. A movie 32 years old looked like it was filmed yesterday.

    For fast-moving action, it is hard to focus long enough to see detail, but early on I did an A/B of Serenity on DVD vs. HD DVD and the extra detail and clarity stood out. Eventually it becomes transparent, and you don't notice it (that's the idea).

    The best visuals I have seen (at least until I pop in this space shuttle HD DVD I just got) are from Phantom of the Opera. The 3-dimensional quality during "Masquerade" is just staggering. That's a VHS to DVD moment.

    Many of the rest are laserdisc to DVD moments... however, keep in mind that once we saw DVD, we really started to notice all the flaws inherent in laserdisc, eh?

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    Because it was available for $450 and it's basically a Toshiba with some cosmetic changes and the RCA nameplate on it.




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    No DVD Audio capabilities according to the manual.





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    I own the RCA and absolutely love it!

    I previously owned the flagship Toshiba XA-1 player...and bought the RCA to compare picture quality. The RCA produced exactly the same picture for about half the cost - so i returned the Toshiba and haven't looked back since.

    I previously was going to wait to purchase BluRay - or whichever format "won" out...I'm glad I gave in and went HD DVD.

    I'll probably buy a BluRay player at some point (maybe even tonight if my local Best Buy has any) to give it a whirl.

    I'm sure I'll be blown away with the quality - just as I was with my RCA unit and HD DVD.

    I'm looking forward to both formats...don't really care who wins the war...i just wanna see as much as possible in HD!

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    One of the things that bothers me about the Toshiba is that
    many people are reporting it's a dinosaur in size -- very reminiscent
    of the early VHS players.

    I am hoping the RCA is more streamlined. If it is, that would be
    a major deciding factor as I really don't want something monstrous
    taking up valuable rack space.

    Any comments?
     
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    The RCA player is by all accounts a rebadged Toshiba, so the dimensions are very similar.

    RCA's website lists the dimensions as 17.32" x 4.53" x 13.94".

    I'm too lazy to measure my HD-A1, but the dimensions are listed on Wikipedia as 17.72" x 4.33" x 13.39".

    Compare:

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    Round or square buttons. Your choice.
     
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    I use a Harmony 880 remote - so the remote buttons are not a concern for me at all.

    My RCA HD DVD player is bigger than my XBOX 360, slightly bigger than my DIRECTV HD DVR, and smaller than my Onkyo A/V Receiver. [​IMG]

    I actually like BIGGER electronics...and I miss my Pioneer DVL-909 combi (LD & DVD) player something fierce...that thing was HUGE!
     
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    Ron,

    They are the same exact player...
     
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    that's what I was afraid of too. I thought I might have to redesign my rack to accomodate it. turned out it was just an inch, may inch and a half taller than my Panasonic player (RP 56).
    This is not anywere near the size of an early 80s VCR.

    it is pretty damn heavy though.

    I'm surprised you haven't caught a demo of this somehwere yet, Ron.
     
  13. Ronald Epstein

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    Paul,

    I lost interest in HD months ago after I learned that it was
    to be a HDMI only format.

    Only within the past week, after I learned that component
    output/input is supported, have I a renewed interest in the format.

    I'm going to CEDIA in in about 12 weeks and will look at all
    the new players there. I'm not really interested in taking a
    chance on first-generation product. On the other hand, reading
    these threads has become a daily obsession and you can bet that
    I am "itching" to get into HD as soon as possible.
     
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    You might not get any 2nd generation players until the 2nd quarter of 2007.




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    Ah, but we've been telling you for two months now that HDMI is not required, at least not yet:

    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...d.php?t=233523

    Thankfully, the thread title which decreed HD formats are HDMI only was eventually altered.

    Just getting real, though, I think ICT restrictions are a distinct possibility in the future. We HAVE to let the studios know that it is unacceptable, especially since a large number of adopters of HD technology only have component inputs, like you and I.

    As for "new" players at CEDIA, I'll bet you actually see the Sony and Pioneer 1st gen units, along with the high-end Toshiba. If you're lucky, Microsoft will preview the HD DVD add-on to Xbox 360.

    Now I've got to figure out how to make room for another DVD player on the rack... and squeeze three six-channel discrete inputs into two!

    - Steve
     
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    I'm betting that the studios are looking to HDTV display figures, and are looking for a threshold % before ICT becomes a real threat. And I'm betting that figure is still 18-24 months away at the earliest.

    Could be wrong, of course.
     
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    They will kill this format if they activate it too soon. You might be right about a certain percentage of HDTV displays, but I think it's really going to depend on how well these HD formats take off. If as suspected, the public is slow in adopting either or both formats then it might be years before the studios activate ICT. Anyhow, I'll be updating my audio processor and television sometime in 2007. Hopefully, by this time next year, but the audio processor might be later due to how fast 1.3 HDMI is added to available equipment.





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    According to a post on AVS from an insider, none of the titles mastered so far for both HD DVD or Blu-Ray have the ICT token, and that includes at least one biggie(BATMAN BEGINS). The studios know that they will lose whatever momentum these new formats have if they use downrezzing.
     
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    Robert,

    Did the RCA require a firmware upgrade similar to the Toshiba? If so can you explain the difference between the two upgrades (different software download, etc)?
     
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    Chris,
    So far I had zero problems with this unit. The RCA website has not updated it's information to include a firmware update. I'm going to call them to see if any are available just in case.





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