RatRace - I think they made a big mistake

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  1. millercv

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    This doesn't really go into the software forum so I decided to put this here...
    Did anyone else notice on the whoever&whoever "call the actors" extra feature - they actually have the touch tones of the stars phone numbers. Didn't try to figure them out but there were the right number of digits (counting dialing 9 to get out)....
    I wonder how many of them had to change their numbers [​IMG]
     
  2. Steve Tannehill

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    The touch-tones were real, but the numbers were fake (555-1212, 555-4567, etc.).

    - Steve
     
  3. Chris Maynard

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    and you know this how Mr. Steve? [​IMG]
     
  4. Steve Tannehill

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    Yes, I am phone phreak in my spare time.

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  5. Trace Downing

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    Steve works for Lucent. There's a reason why their corporate logo resembles The Eye of Sauron. Us, at AT&T just call it the flaming asshole.

    Anyhow, FCC rulings say that any entertainment piece must use a 555 prefix, as there are no real numbers assigned with that. Otherwise, we'll run into another Tommy Tutone (Jenny 867-5309) debacle. The two Steves (Wosniak, and Jobs) broke the code of the touch tones to get free calls, before they started Apple. It's much easier to decode the actual dual tone sound on a phone key...especially since any telecommunications class will provide you with the actual octaves on paper. With a bit of skill, you can learn which button is being pushed just by the sound.
     
  6. Chris Maynard

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    You mean that if I modified one of those Radio Shack phone dialers I could fake a pay phone into thinking I had just deposited $15.00 in quarters thus making my phone call to England free?
    I had no idea.... [​IMG]
     
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  8. Trace Downing

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    What? Laid off? Forgive my nosyness...forget it.

    No Chris, The dual-tone system just tells the network where to direct and terminate the call. It doesn't actually clock a bill for you. That's handled by messages imbedded in the bitstream of the actual call. We already have broken Woz and Job's secret backdoor. Even if I did know how they did it, It would be useless to tell you, since it's been blocked, and the Net won't recognize it.
     
  9. Chris Maynard

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    Trace - I think you are mistaken. Listen to a pay phone next time you insert a quarter. It has been years since I um..."heard" about this.
    Pay phones used to use a tone to determine deposited amount.
    It was easy to fake out....so I hear. [​IMG]
     
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    Trace, it's best not to discuss employers on the open forum.

    - Steve
     
  11. Martin Fontaine

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    That trick of recording the tone a quarter makes to fake it after, it used to work. I did it a few times, but that was in 1989 or something... Someone at school back then showed me that!
     
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    Martin - I am not talking about recording the tones. I was talking about making a device the actually produces the exact tones. I hear it could be done... [​IMG]
     
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    Yes it is possible to build DTMF tone generators. However, the "secret" tones no longer work on modern phone systems. I'm sure there are still some backwood places that use the old system, but you'll have better luck using voice-over-IP to get "free" phone calls.

    -Mike
     

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