A big problem is that for most people the tremendous production values could not be seen in the proper way for more than half a century. Anything less than a 35mm print or a good Blu-ray will not convey just how magnificent Fall looked, So far all home video versions fail to show the sheer amount of details and textures on display in the original 70mm release prints - it looked fantastic.I’m always surprised to read negative comments about Fall as it is without doubt the most spectacular of all Roman epics with the best set and costume design. And Gladiator was a remake, though with the religion removed.
Fall was a secular epic with only one very oblique reference to Christianity.There was nothing to remove.And Gladiator was a remake, though with the religion removed.
Fall is far from perfect but I also found its atmosphere and cinematography top notch and to me it was mostly let down by its script, Stephen Boyd as the leading man and the annoyingly repetitive score. Gladiator on the other hand is more of a simple revenge story that is much easier to do well than what Fall sets out to do.Fall was a secular epic with only one very oblique reference to Christianity.There was nothing to remove.
I always wish that Gladiator had Fall's sets and costumes and Fall had Gladiator's script and actors!
Now that would be an epic !!
And why aren't there American Blu-ray releases?70mm shot movies like 55 Days at Peking and Circus World have had superb restorations done recently by Pinewood in the UK. A pity they haven't done the other Bronson epics El Cid and Fall of the Roman Empire, and of course many of the other 70mm epics like Raintree County still begging for a proper restoration. Why do they think a John Wayne circus set movie would be more commercial than and Elizabeth Taylor American Civil War set epic?
I would say low demand. If I recall, the Miriam Collection DVDs of El Cid and Fall sold poorly that the releases of 55 Days and Circus World were cancelled. Even then, it took a LOOONG time for those two to get to DVD; there were rumors in the early-2000s that either Miramax or some other company were planning to release them on DVD. It didn't stop Harvey Weinstein (ugh) from doing an HD restoration of Circus World even if a Blu-Ray would never surface. Overseas, there have always been demand for the Bronston epics.Rights issues and/or lower demand for physical media? Luckily there are several European releases and at least one can also play on US players so it is not as if it would be very difficult to get these.
You're probably right, but I recall Harvey Weinstein on some morning talk show talking about the restored version of CW; I don't recall him taking credit for the restoration, but knowing what we know now about him, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he did.Circus World was scanned from the OCN in the UK. Luckily the Weinstein company had nothing to do with that or it would have ended up looking like Fall and El Cid.
It helps that King of Kings was partially funded by MGM, which is probably how Warner was able to rescue it from the fate the other Bronston epics have suffered. I can’t speak for the CW, 55, and El Cid, but for several years I’ve been of the suspicion that Fall may have gone back to Paramount since they seemingly have streaming rights to the film (at least in the US).And I'm willing to bet if a major studio owned those four films, we would be seeing them getting proper treatment. King of Kings is lucky, because Warner Bros. owns it. Last time I checked, the other titles were with The Weinstein Company (now Spyglass) and I don't know if those rights are still active or if they reverted to the original owners.
Yeah, you're right, we're getting too distracted.Isn’t this thread about Raintree County?
How is the quality of the app, does it stream in HD?Yeah, you're right, we're getting too distracted.
BTW, if anyone has the Watch TCM app, you can watch Raintree County now 'til Wednesday. Running time is allegedly 3 hours, 7 minutes though it could be an error.
Yep, you are right, the Bronston movies have their own thread so I am refraining from answering to the latest posts.Isn’t this thread about Raintree County?
FWIW, I've read the shooting script for FotRE at the Herrick out here in LA, and there was a sliver more references to Christians in it. Two of Livius' allies in the senate are (secret) Christians, but all of their lines were cut. All you see of them now are in the background next to Livius when they're all chained to be burned as sacrifice to Commodus.Fall was a secular epic with only one very oblique reference to Christianity.There was nothing to remove.