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RAINTREE COUNTY on Blu?

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Andrew Budgell, Feb 17, 2011.

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  1. RolandL

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    10/03/1957

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    Brown theatre today.

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    Thanks for these great artifacts, Roland! And I stand corrected on the world premiere date.
     
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    TCM will air RAINTREE COUNTY on Monday, February 10 at 7.45 am ET as part of its 31 Days of Oscar 2020 celebration.

    The film was nominated for four Academy Awards: Elizabeth Taylor for Best Actress; Best Art Direction-Set Direction; Best Costume Design; and Best Music, Scoring.

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    So Blu Ray recorders at the ready then. Anybody willing to make me a copy please contact me off list to negotiate!
     
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    I take it this is the same transfer that was aired about 3-4 years ago?

    I still have it sitting on my Tivo because I knew I would never own it any other way.

    I think I am going to pull the next airing off my Tivo and burn it to a Blu-ray disc. That will probably be the only way we can ever own it on the format.
     
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    I lost my last DVR copy I had of the film because my DVR died (it was a beautiful print of the film; the best I've ever seen). I have every intention to getting a new DVR copy when this airs this week.

    Thanks for the reminder, Andy.
     
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    Hi Ron, TCM has been airing an (older) HD transfer of the film since September 2018, so I recommend re-recording it. It's a big upgrade over what they previously showed.
     
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    Thanks, Andy. Will be recording tomorrow.
     
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    Ron, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you have a chance to take a peak at it. It looks quite good for a very old HD transfer and I'm surprised it hasn't been released as a Warner Archive DVD and digital download. At least it would give fans an opportunity to own a copy of this film.
     
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    Andy,

    I saw the broadcast from approx. 3 years ago and I thought it looked fine.

    What bothers me is if there is an enhanced/partially restored transfer that is improved from the one I already have on my Tivo, why hasn't Warner at least made it available digitally?

    There's no argument that Warner and Sony do the best restorations out there. However, I feel Warner has really boxed themselves in by demanding the absolute best transfer before making it available on disc.

    I had a conversation with someone who will remain nameless years ago about restoring RAINTREE. At the time, I had no interest in it but I knew how much HTF members wanted it released. I was basically told it would be too expensive a restoration project to get it out.

    However, that transfer I saw on TCM looked pretty good. I am looking forward to seeing how it looks now.

    But what would it take for Warner just to take that transfer and run with it? Yes, the Archive would be a great way to release it, but even if they didn't go that route, digital would be the next best bet.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up, Andrew! I have set RAINTREE COUNTY (1957) on my PVR queue!!

    CHEERS! :)
     
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    It amazes me how so many awful movies seem to get released on Blu Ray when epic productions like Raintree with huge stars and production values do not. And why do so many have HD transfers done for tv transmission but do not get released onto disc? Streaming may be fine for some, but nor the majority who do not live in big cities with fast reliable wifi!
    In France where I live some extraordinarily good HD transfers of movies have been shown on one of our 26 free to air HD channels, including last year the best transfer I've seen of Once Upon A Time In the West, John Wayne's Todd Ao The Alamo, and the Alain Delon Black Tulip from 1969 which was shot in 70mm and looked simply stunning!
    It isn't fair that such a beautiful epic Hollywood costume drama like Raintree should be forgotten.
     
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    We've had this debate before and more than once. The glaringly obvious course of action is for Warners to take this pretty good transfer and release it on a DVD. Some of their DVD-Rs are bloody awful. Raintree Country would be far better. What's the problem?
     
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    Ron, I think you're going to find that there's a pretty big leap in quality over your previous recording. As to why Warner hasn't released a DVD or a digital copy (the latter being my preference, as it be HD), that is my question as well, and is why I've, perhaps foolishly, retained a small bit of hope that they will perhaps properly restore the film one day. This film hasn't been commercially available in North America or elsewhere since the 1999 VHS releases of the roadshow and theatrical versions of the film went out of print.

    Looking forward to your thoughts once you've had a chance to spot check the airing tomorrow!
     
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    Yes this is the improved version but shorter (166 vs 173 minutes) that was shown on Public Television back in March 2018. It's missing the overture and intermission music. The roadshow was 188 minutes.
     
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    I screwed up guys!

    Had an auto-reminder set up for today to remind me to set this up on my Tivo...

    ...but somehow I missed the fact it aired at 7:45am and I thought it was 7:45pm.

    So, guys, I am sure you will do this anyway, but keep me updated on the next showing.
     
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    Oh no!! Sorry to hear that, Ron. Will keep my eyes peeled for the next airing and will let you know!
     
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    I was very pleased with the presentation this morning. There are still a few speckles throughout but did not give me a problem. The colors, to me, were very vibrant, however there is that day for night scene that seemed like mid afternoon. I am always taken back when they all said good night as they headed off to bed, where it seemed they should be going in for their afternoon drink.
     
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