Quick Tommy heads up!

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  1. Chris Elm

    Chris Elm Stunt Coordinator

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    Turns out these are from Crest as well. One guy over at the Asylum is already reporting cracking. [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Maybe all we will ever get from Crest is lip service.
    I've heard it sounds great, but this is ridiculous.
     
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    I have mine but haven't opened it yet to listen to it. I swear to y'all, if mine cracks, I'm driving down there to return it to the plant myself. [​IMG]

    I just checked mine. In really small letters along the inside ring, it does say, Manufactured by National Crest in CA, or something. And ... there are "bubble" like defects already around the inner ring (like there's a non-uniform amount of air or something trapped in between the layers). Great. [​IMG]

    Funny one. A buddy of mine just bought a new 2900. Another buddy loaned him Dark Side. Without even having to guess, I opened up the jewel case, took out the disc, and showed both of them the cracks it had. Both guys were extremely pissed. I said, luckily, yours isn't that bad. Some discs crack so bad they leave flakes behind in the player. They were not as amused as I was. I can't figure that! [​IMG]
     
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    Listened to mine. So far so good, no cracks (although the "air bubbles" are still there).

    I like the surround mix, although I think DSOTM is preferrable. (More "bizarre" stuff in the mix to throw into the surrounds in the latter.)

    One thing I am finding. You take a std stereo mix, and essentially spread it out into the room from 2 to 5 speakers. Seems to add "clarity" in that you have more or less the same amount of music, but spread among more speakers. Because the info per speaker decreases, the detail per speaker goes up. Can't quite explain it. Maybe it makes a little bit of sense. [​IMG]
     
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    Guys, that's an intresting observation but it makes sense.[​IMG]
     
  6. Doug_B

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    Just received my Tommy yesterday. Didn't realize this was a Crest kid. I think I'll move these discs out of the provided storage, as I think taking it out of this tight center hub stresses the disc.

    BTW, listened to most but not all of the surround mix first. I was generally pleased with the "everywhere" sound of it. It didn't seem like there was much experimentation with what might be called "gimmicky" surround use. In the proper dosage, such gimmicky use can be quite appropriate and enjoyable. I agree with previous post that DSOTM probably presented more of these opportunities.

    Haven't listened to the stereo tracks yet.

    Doug
     
  7. Chris Elm

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    Does this mean that Elton's YBR will be from Crest as well?
    I'd like to know before throwing $30 down the drain for this set.
     
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    I have had this disk for about three weeks now without any cracks showing. Since I have a single disk player it requires me to take them in and out of those dang tight hubs which I dread each time. So far no problems but I did notice a slight discolorization around the hub from the possible layer seal mentioned previously.

    Even though some of my disk have cracked I have not had a single disk become unplayable. I plan on picking up GYBR tonight and I will post if any problems develop.
     
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    Has anyone noticed with Tommy that it appears the surrounds are getting more vocals than the mains for a lot of the songs? The center also gets strong vocals. I was even checking out my cabling and running my player's test tones to make sure something wasn't set up wrong.

    Doug
     
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  11. BrentPollard

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    QUOTE:
    there are "bubble" like defects already around the inner ring (like there's a non-uniform amount of air or something trapped in between the layers). Great.

    Over at the Steve Hoffman forum someone mentioned that those bubbles are actually oil to act as some kind of lubricant.

    Check to see if the bubbles change shape or location.
     
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    Great. First flakes from DSOTM, and now oil from Tommy in my player. [​IMG]
     

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