Question about Opening Credits

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  1. Holadem

    Holadem Lead Actor

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    The opening credits of Seinfeld goes like so:
    Jerry Seinfeld, Richard XXX, Julia-Louis Dreyfus AND Jason Alexander AS George
    While Seinfeld is the only example I can think of, this happens in numerous movie credits. Why is Jason Alexander presented last, yet emphasised by the "AND... AS..."?
    What is the purpose of "AND Actor AS Character" in opening credits, why not simply place his name like the other main characters?
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  2. Jeff Kleist

    Jeff Kleist Executive Producer

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    I think it's supposed to be a balance for being last
     
  3. Alex Spindler

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    I agree. It's often used as a concilliatory move for a big name actor who has too small a role to be call a lead actor. But they don't want to devalue him, so he gets special billing.
    My favorite is when a movie has "Guest Starring" credit, as opposed to the regular showing of the movie that doesn't have guest stars? [​IMG]
     
  4. Jason Seaver

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    It's more prestigious placement - agents figure people remember the first and last items of a list fairly clearly, but tend to forget the middle, and often negotiate for that space.
    For example, on Babylon 5 Peter Jurassik and Andreas Katsulas actually alternated who got the "...and" credit.
    No-one does it better than the French, though. I still haven't figured out what "avec la participation de..." signifies versus just "avec", but it sounds pretty sweet. [​IMG] Not to mention, instead of "...and Jason Alexander as George", they'll do "...et Vincent Perez dans la rôle de 'Le Duc'".
    (Not just because French sounds classier than English, but because they're clearly using more words than strictly necessary and adding flourish)
     
  5. Alex Spindler

    Alex Spindler Producer

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    I know that my movie is going to have:

    Starring Edward Norton
    With Nicole Kidman
    And Jodie Foster
    Featuring Julianne Moore
    And with the participation of Jeffery Combs
    With the incomparable baking talents of Julia Childs
    And guest starring Ben Murphy!
     
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    and
    Eli Wallach
    in the role of Tuco
     
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    that is why the "starring (in alphabetical order)" thing works so well.

    guess they can't argue too much then.
     
  9. Jason Whyte

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    I'd like to adopt PT Anderson's approach that he used in both Magnolia and Boogie Nights:
    Philip Baker Hall played Jimmy Gator
    Burt Reynolds played Jack Horner
    Mark Wahlberg played Dirk Diggler
    Melora Walters played Claudia Wilson-Gator
    [​IMG]
     
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    Mr. Cranky's review of "Mission To Mars" had a humorous take on this. (I am using spoiler tags for a reason!)

    Tim Robbins dies.

    How do we know this before the film starts? Well, first of all, you never see him on the planet in the trailers. Second of all, he's given one of those credits where his name doesn't appear until the end of the major stars and then it says: "and Tim Robbins." It should say: "and Tim Robbins... who dies."
     
  11. Rob Gardiner

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    ...and JERRY MATHERS as THE BEAVER
     

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