Queen's "The Game" on DVD-Audio

Ryan Chron

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I recently bought the new dvd-a release of Queen's "The Game" (rumored to be released on 4/29 but actually came out a month ago) and even though it has a great surround mix there appear to be a lot of problems with the disc. When listening to the 96/24 DTS soundtrack, the lyrics synch up with the music and, whenever the lyrics pages change, the music skips. The sound from all five speakers also fills with static in the middle of "Sail Away Sweet Sister" on DTS. I have also heard a weird clicking noise from all five speakers on the same song in MLP. I know the problem isn't my equipment since I have plenty of other dvd-audio titles that work fine including Queen's "A Night at the Opera". Has anyone else had these same problems with disc since they bought it? It's really pissing me off since I can tell the surround mix is really well done.
 

Chris Brunner

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I'm having the same problem, intermittently, of the dropouts when the lyric page advances.


I haven't noticed the "clicking" sounds, but I really haven't had time to sit down and thoroughly go over the whole disk.

I'm using a Toshiba SD-4700 player connected via optical cable to a Yamaha HTR-5560 receiver.

Cb
 

Dan Joy

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Ok, let me try.

I'm using a Toshiba SD-4700 player connected via optical cable to a Yamaha HTR-5560 receiver.
Is this for the MLP layer, because you will need analog connections for this in DVD-A mode.

I hope I am right and have helped.
 

Michael_T

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I had the same problem playing the DTS track. I thought it was my DVD-Audio player.

The DVD-Audio 5.1 mix played fine, but when I found out that the DTS 5.1 mix was different than the DVD-Audio mix, I tried that.

I also noticed that there seemed to be clicks and dropouts at the automatic lyric page changes when listening to the DTS mix - and this was through the analog outs of the DVD-Audio player.

I guess I will stick with the DVD-Audio mix.
 

Ryan Chron

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Does your receiver or pre allow you to decode DTS 96/24 through digital in? If not, this may be a problem.
I have a sony reciever and it handles Queen's "A Night at the Opera" flawlessly which also has DTS 96/24. I only seem to get the strange static sound in the middle of "Sail Away Sweet Sister". I really want to be able to listen to the disc in DTS since my Toshiba SD-5700 does not have bass management for DVD-Audio. I'm hoping that DTS will offer to fix the bugs in the disc. This is the first DVD I have bought that I have been unhappy with because of glitches.
 

Daryl Furkalo

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On my RP-91 the DVD-A layer played flawlessly, although the lyrics pages did not automatically change, I had to go manual.
 

Doug_H

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Works fine on my panny car DVD-A player as well as my JVC and Kenwood players in the house. My only complaint is that they didn't include a full bit rate 2 channel track Grrrr.
 

LanceJ

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Doug: Unless I'm mistaken, The Game has a 96/24 "regular" PCM stereo track that's playable on dvd-audio and dvd-VIDEO players.

LJ
 

KeithH

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Lance, thanks for sending that e-mail. Let us know if you hear anything back from them. Hopefully you will obtain a meaningful response.
 

LanceJ

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Here is the response I received from DTS Entertainment today regarding these reported problems:

Dear Lance,

PLEASE POST THIS RESPONSE INTO YOUR E-MAIL THREAD:

Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. These reported malfunctions are very frustrating, for we have verified that this disc did indeed "pass" all the required quality control tests... the same procedures that we have used to ensure the reliability of our other discs. And, to date, we have shipped thousands of these discs, and have received no other complaints.

That said, we have immediately forwarded these concerns to our QC department, and will stay on top of this until we receive a solid explanation as to why these symptoms have suddenly appeared.
Kind regards,

David DelGrosso
Vice President of Marketing
DTS Entertainment
Phone: 818-706-3525 (ext 320)



LJ
 

andrew markworthy

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FWIW, I've played the DTS and stereo tracks and they're both absolutely fine (and the lyrics move in synch with the music).
 

Ryan Chron

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what is dts entertainment's e-mail address, Lance? I think we should all make our voices heard on this one.

...and andrew, what kind of dvd player do you have?
 

Justin Lane

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Well I finally picked this one up yesterday at Best Buy. No problems whatsoever on playback of the DTS track or 2.0 PCM track on a Sony DVD player. I am over at my girlfriend's so I couldn't check out the Hi-res multichannel PCM.

It sounds like your player may be the problem Ryan. One thing you could do to eliminate the particular disc you own as the culprit is to return yours and pick up another copy. If you still run into problems, you can be assured that your player is the problem. Unfortunately I don't see DTS remastering the disc for your problem if your player is to blame. Possibly Toshiba knows about this problem from earlier discs and has issued updated firmware. It is worth checking into.

I hate to say it, but from all the problems Toshiba players have run into over the years with various discs, I would never buy one of their players.

J
 

Al B. C

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I dunno, maybe I'm livin right. I've had a Toshiba SD-9200 DVD player for 2 years and not had one problem with it.
 

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