PSB GOLDi and TOTEM audition

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  1. Shion_ca

    Shion_ca Stunt Coordinator

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    Well despite having received no responses to my thoughts on my last posting about Tannoy S10's and PBM FB1s, I thought I'd see if anyone had similar experiences with the PSB line and Totem line of speakers so a repeat of my first post with the rest of the story at the bottom and a plea for someone to give me suggestions of what speaker to look into given my "tastes" if you can call them that ; )....

    I came across angood deal on a pair of PSB Goldis which were "virtually new" and thought I'd audition what I was buying locally first. (incidentally I'm looking for something to better play my more rock/alternative (think stone temple pilots, bush, Nine Inch Nails, Stones, Doors, Linkin Park,)) I also want something that will do home theater and will do well with Enya, Natalie Merchant, Sarah Mclaughlin and some R&B say Janet Jackson sounding stuff. So not asking for too much right

    The first place I went to, kennedy Hi-Fi in Markham Ontario (Canada) didn't have any but they suggested I listen to a pair of Tannoy S-10(s). They were played on a bryston 4B-ST and a Br find they were quite directional (you'd best be sitting in the sweet spot). I had a definate sense that these speakers were designed to play loud as they had a kind of potential forcefulness lingering behind the sound. They did the lower frequency rock stuff well by making things distinct but not overdoing it (Ie not separating the sounds out so much that it doesn't sound "alternativy"). I did however find that the (the vocals) were submerged into the music and didn't really stand out as well given the drums and the rest of the guitar that was going on. I kind of lost the vocals if that made sense. The vocals also were a little thin and the cymbals/chymey things didn't quite sound "right".

    So then I tried a PMC speaker LB1s It was contrastingly quite a bit smaller than the Tannoy. It was played on a McIntosh Pre-pro and bryston amplification. In any case vocals on it stood right in the forefront of the sound, they had a much thicker quality. It also had (to my ear) noticably more real and accurate sounding cymbals and high end electric guitar though these seemed to have just a tad less emphasis than the vocals. While I found the vocals and high end instrumentals quite pleasing but noted that the lower end guitar and drum work while very accurate was definately lacking in power and emphasis relative to the vocals which almost washed them out a little. Essentially the exact opposite of the Tannoy S-10s and they also seemed much less sensative to listener placement.

    Following this I went and auditioned the PSB Goldi and several members of the totem line....

    In any case I had thought for sure I would enjoy the PSB Goldis, but while they did a great many things quite well (tight base, a good volume/depth to the sound, good clarity) they were discordant being a little harsh in the upper frequencies almost making my ears tired of listening to them after 10 minutes of various rock tracks. They also didn't bring out the vocals quite the way I liked and while accurate the higher end sounded a little small if that makes any sense. I then listened to the totem forests which was night and day a more enjoyable (if slightly more expensive) speaker. I found the quality of the sound to be a lot less mechanical and their was a thickness ot the voice which was almost (or perhaps the) equal of the PMCs I'd listened to. I liked the way it did flutes and higher frequency instruments better than all the others I'd heard but seemed to be lacking a little depth or that feeling of power behind the sound (I don't have another way to describe it). With the addition of a subwoofer this went away but I found the pound of the sub to be a little annoying on enya tracks. I then tried the Mani-2 which then gave me the feeling of power behind the sound on the highs and medium and almost all the way to the bottom, it also opened up the music a lot more, made the sound sweeter and gave astounding imaging and clarity, I had this goofy smile on my face. The only thing it had against it was the really low frequencies (actually the forrests sounded just a little better in this respect on Janet Jackson's son of a gun). I also couldn't afford to match these speakers with a sub at this price (not one that would do it justice) and also would rather put the money that would go into stands towards the actual speaker........
     
  2. Scott Oliver

    Scott Oliver Screenwriter

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    You might find the JM Reynaud Offrandes to your liking.
    They are a very high quality monitor speaker with stands included in the price.
    New $4300 but can get them used or demo models ranging in price from $2500 to $3500.
    2 1/2 way tramission line design
    bass rated down to 30 Hz which seems about right in my room
    Read more about them at www.jm-reynaud.com and there is also a review of them on www.enjoythemusic.com
    The Offrandes continue to bring smiles to my face every time I listen to them. They just play music, where you stop nit-picking at the sound, and just say that sounds right. Have NIN's Burn album which on all my previous systems had been very unrelenting and basically unlistenable for long periods. Absolutely love the attack of this album now, and the vocals are doisplayed beautifully.
    I have mine set up where I can switch between a Bag End sub or full range sound and I prefer the sound of the Offrandes on their own even in the bass regions. I have ended up only using the sub on really demanding bass heavy classical or synthetic rap bass beats.
    I mention these because you seemed to have enjoyed the Mani-2 the most, and on AudioReview.com there is a review stating that the owner switched from the Mani-2 to the JMR Offrandes.
    Of the speakers you mention, I have listened to the PSB Golds and found them not very involving and the bass seemed out of whack with the rest of the frequencies. Basically they weren't enough of an upward move over my previous speakers to warrant the expense.
     
  3. Nathan J

    Nathan J Stunt Coordinator

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    Dude, the guy on that JMR site.....WOW, can you say Uni-brow?
     
  4. Scott Oliver

    Scott Oliver Screenwriter

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    He's French, what can I say.[​IMG]
    There are no furry brows on his speakers thank goodness.
     
  5. Geoff L

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    Scott, you lucky dog... [​IMG]
    Beautiful on the eyes too!
    The speak not the brows boys....[​IMG]
    Impressive covers it I think!
    Geoff
     
  6. Sihan Goi

    Sihan Goi Second Unit

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    Well I have a pair os PSB Stratus Goldi's myself and while they're aren't the best speakers I've heard, they were the best I've heard that were within my budget. I prefer them vastly to the Dynaudio Audience and Paradigm Reference Studio speakers, which were what I compared them to. Of course some other speakers I auditioned put them to shame, such as the Dynaudio Contour series and some Wilson Benesch floorstanders, but those were 2-5X the price. I'm still very happy with them, because as you said, they do a lot of things right. Give it some time to break in and the high frequency harshness will soften up quite a bit.
     

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