Pronouncing "film noir"

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  1. John_Kiger

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    Understanding the concept should be enough, if we can ever achieve that. But have you ever tried to say it out loud? What's preferred...
    "film nwah" ?
    "film noyer" (Midwest) ?
    "film noyah" (Eastern seaboard) ?
     
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    I say "nwahr"

    p.s. I've always said it quickly (especially when talking about Pinot Noir) because I'm never sure on the right way either.

    EDIT: According to dictionary.com:
    (nwär)
     
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    "Film No are" for me!

    Brent
     
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    I'm of French descent and it drives me nuts when people pronounce it like nar instead of nwah! It means black or dark. Bonsoir!!!!!!!
     
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    what? bon-soy-er? [​IMG]

    New-ahr
     
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    Hah, hah!
     
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    I pronounce it "nwarrrrgggghhh."

    Kind of unconventional.

    Many of my ancestors were pirates.
     
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    haha.


    You know what's funny, I live in Montreal (Quebec) and speak a limited ammount of French - emough to get by with the average stranger I'll encounter on the street, but for the life of me I can't pronounce the street name that I live on!


    St-Ambroise.


    My sister jokingly says that it should be pronounced St-Amggggggrrrroise.


    I usually end up calling it St-Ambwoise, but than it sounds so ridiculous that I'm embarassed when people asking me this out loud.

    I try to roll my "r" - St-Ambrrrroise" but than I end up sounding like a complete idiot, like some medieval European swashbuckler. So I just don't say my street name.

    The last incident this occured in, was when I had to return an electronic razor and the store asked for my address for the warranty receipt. I had to repeat it 3 times cause the woman didn't understanbd what I was saying. :b
     
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    I'm from Boston (thusly, I never pronounce an 'r' as in "Pahk the Cah") and I pronounce it "nwahr", with just the slight hint of two syllables. I can see "Nwah" or even "No Are", but let's face it - "Noyer" is just plain silly.
     
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    The "r" in "noir" is silent. "oi" is a wa sound. Just say "nwa". Well, that is our French lesson for today. See you in class tomorrow.
     
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    The "r" is not silent at all Michael.


    It's pronounced "Nwar", not very difficult to say.
     
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    So how do you guys pronounce film? Fihlm ... Feelm? [​IMG]

    p.s. If you're in Springfield, you pronounce if Flim. (obvious Simpson reference)
     
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    Your right, the "r" is not silent but more of an "h" sound. It is lightly touched on when you say "noir". It is just like how the French pronounce reservoir as compared to how Americans pronounce reservoir.
     
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    you mean, it's not a hard r, but more like a soft r (if there's such thing as a soft r).
     
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    Your a better teacher than me. That was an excellent way to put it. My last name is "de Mat" and is pronounced "de Mah". If a "t" is followed by an e that you would enunciate the hard "t".
     
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    Next lesson is on how to pronounce my name. [​IMG]
     
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    "Count De Money!!"

    "De Monay, De Monay"

    - History of the World, Part II



    "Great save by Patrick Roy"

    "Uhh, Derek, it's pronounced 'Roo-uh'"

    "Fred, I grew up in the Soo and where I'm from R-O-Y spells Roy"

    - Conversation between Boston Bruins broadcasters Derek Sanderson and Fred Cusick, circa 1989
     
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    Okay, how do you pronounce it. I am interested!
     

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