Producer says Inday 4 will not rely on CGI.

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  1. Josh Simpson

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    From www.imdb.com

    Producer Says 'Indy 4' Will Not Rely on CGI


    Indiana Jones producer Frank Marshall is determined to shun the current trends in movie making - insisting the upcoming fourth installment of the hit franchise will avoid using computer effects. Frank is adamant the sequel to the hit Harrison Ford adventure franchise will retain the tradition of its classic forerunners by utilizing real stunt work instead of high-tech graphics, giving it the feel of a B-movie. He says, "We didn't have computer effects in those days, we couldn't easily erase things and I think one of the unfortunate by-products of the computer age is that it makes filmmakers lazy. You become more creative when you have to hide ramps with a tree rather than erase it later as you can today. In Raiders Of The Lost Ark, that's a real ball rolling behind him so Harrison really is in some danger running in front of that; these are real situations and that adds to the excitement and the creative energy on the set. When you start getting into computers you get fantastical situations like in The Matrix or movies like that. We don't want that, we want exciting heroism, we want seat-of-your-pants, skin-of-your-teeth action. We didn't have all the money in the world on the first films and we want to keep that B-movie feel. We want to make Indiana Jones 4 like we made the first three."


    Well, if they do it like they say, this should be pretty good. I still am leary at the thought of Harrison's age, but of course, I'll be there. As long as they don't go overboard with the slapstick humor, such as Temple of Doom, or how they made Marcus and Indy's dad, and Sallah to a lesser extent.
     
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    Josh,

    I'm with you. I thought that Last Crusade was not the movie it should have been and could have been because of the use of low quality cgi effects (at least I think they were cgi, maybe I'm wrong here). Of course, they were state of the art for their time, but that's not the point.

    -Reagan
     
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    Well I say a hearty BRAVO to this!

    Still, it's not like these movies lend themselves to CGI like LOTR, SW or THE MATRIX.

    Should be interesting to see how the tone and feel of the movie is different.
     
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    Very good news indeed!!
     
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    What? No Indy jumping up into the air, freezing, and then kicking the bad guy 20 times before landing?! [​IMG]
     
  6. Qui-Gon John

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    What, no Mistah Jah Jah Binks, what are theysa thinkin'!

    [​IMG]
     
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    The one thing i'm not worried about is Ford's age.
    The man can look 35 if he wanted to.

    Hes been my favorite actor since my very first film 25 years ago.

    This movie should be great. IMO the Trilogy kept getting better with each movie.
     
  8. Malcolm R

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    A Lucasfilm production without CGI? It can't be done, I tell you! [​IMG]


    You remember watching HF in action when you were only 2?
     
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    Thank god! The last thing anyone needs is Indiana Jones engaging in a bunch of cheesy wire-fu. These movies may be fantasies but they're down-and-dirty, tough-guy fantasies. The truck chase from RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK is still the greatest action sequence ever put on film and it was done without CGI. Indy don't need computer effects! [​IMG]
     
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    I don't throw up my arms in frustration every time CGI is used, but I have to admit that this is a pleasant move. I pity the pour souls that don't like Indiana Jones. [​IMG]
     
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    I think for this one though, they ought to have him basically he has stopped all field work and then something comes up that they convince him to go one more time. For that age bracket, it's definitely no problem, as he can easily look only 10 years older than Last Crusade.

    Dustin, I think TOD was not quite as good as the others, but I don't bash it nearly as much as many here do. And in some ways LC is even better because of the Ford/Connery interplay, though Raiders is great too.
     
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    Indy WILL use CGI. There's going to be CGI backlot in this film. It has become the standard for "historical" films to enhance shots and give them a more epic sweep. It was actually "Young Indy" which revolutionized it's use, and you can bet Lucas will push for it. So what we're talking about are "invisible effects"....

    But it's still CG.
     
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    Here's an exerpt from Premiere magazine about Indy 4 from the principals. Here's the link:

    http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=1444

     
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    This very good news.

    The guy is right, look at the last two Star Wars movie, so many special effects that it drowns out anything redeeming about the characters.

    Now tell me that Karen Allen will definitely be in it and I will be a happy Man.
     
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    Hrmm but what about the ghost scene at the end of raiders of the lost ark. where they real? [​IMG]
     
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    No Todd, they weren't real. They also weren't CGI.[​IMG]
     
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    There was a bit of morphing on Last Crusade when Donovan died. They talked about it on the Willow Dvd supplement. But it was used very sparse. I'm just a little more concerned with the actors being hoaky or dumb than CGI, which i figure there won't be as much of.
     
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    Yep. I'm sure there will be tons of digital matte paintings and CGI crowds.
     
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    Ah, so the film's barely begun pre-production and already they're lying to us?

    I'm still not convinced we'll ever see this film.
     
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    I think what Marshall meant is that there will still be a lot of live action stunt work and that chase scenes will not be made in front of a green screen.
     

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