Well, to the person that gave me advice on the receivers I ended up going with the HK630 for my klipsch synergy 3's. Picked one up off harmanaudio on ebay, finally came in today (had to wait at UPS an hour cause i was at work when it arrived), get home, spent 2 hours setting everything up and getting it pretty. .. no sound from surround left channel .. swapped speakers, none of them worked from the surround left, different modes, made sure it was set right, all the other speakers/channels work fine. Very upset here.. did i just get a bad one? aren't refurbished done by the factory? am i missing something here? if anyone has any suggestions other than the obvious (call HK/service it/return it) please let me know.. thanks.