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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by James Brown, Sep 23, 2002.
What are your takes on Dobly Pro Logic II?
I guess that depends on what you mean. Too many people seemed to think because it came out after Dolby Digital that it was supposed to be the next audio format from the Dolby people.
In actuality, it is just a very basic expansion on the original concept of pro logic- and as such I think it's decent. It certainly isn't ground breaking- but in terms of 2 channel DSP, it is a nice addition and a slight improvement over simple Pro Logic DSP.
So, I guess it all depends on your expectations.
I agree, better than old PL, but still not as good as a true 5.1/6.1 format.
It also depends on what you are using it for. With stereo, mono, and lower versions of Dolby surround, it sound quite good. Most specifically TV broadcast, standard VHS tapes, and the odd DVD here and there that fall under the non- 5.1/6.1 material mentioned in the previous sentence.
With stereo music, it really depends on the recording, but it still doesn't sound very good to me with most CDs, and I prefer stereo anyway, because PL II doesn't sound nearly as good as true multi-channel music.
Am I a fan of it? No. Is it bad? No. Do I use it? Not if I can avoid it.
My receiver has CS5.1 (Circle surround) that sounds much better, IMO.
I listen to 2-channel sound, using 2-channels. I don’t really care for reproduction artificially diverted to other speakers.
DPII is what we use when watching cable tv.
Artificial is a bit of mis-statement in this case. Many 2 channel soundtracks are specifically created (heck, PAINSTAKINGLY created) to be used with a dolby surround process. It would be more correct to say that the programs are "incorrect" when listened to in 2 channel, when they were mixed in a 4 channel environment and encoded to 2.
DPL2 just takes cues from the front soundstage (and some other interesting trickery) to split the surrounds into stereo.
I think generally I like the 5.1 CS better for the older VHS tapes and PL-II for the newer VHS. I can't think of the last time I put a VHS in though. Seems like with CS you get more bass. I prefer PL-II over reg PL though.
Even with standard cable, VHS tapes and music, Ide rather listen to stereo or 5 ch stereo. With PLII it seems like the center ch is the only speaker I have.
I just havent found anything good to watch and listen to in PLII.
PLII I have that and DTS:Neo6 on my receiver (Pioneer VSX-D811S), although I don't use DTS:Neo6 becasut PLII sounds more natural to me. I like PLII for TV and my Star Wars LD's sound SWEET in PLII. Regular CD music I listen to in plain old stereo.
I switch between DPLII and Neo:6 when watching Laserdiscs or other Dolby surround encoded material.
I tend to use DTS Neo:6 a lot.
When i first heard PLII i thought it was a big improvement over PL, but since i discovered Neo6, i tend to use it most of the time.
Admittedly my A/V system is not used for any 'normal' audio (CD's etc) at all.