Pro Logic II

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  1. BenjaminA

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    I am looking at getting the Onkyo 696 and have a question about dolby pro logic II. I would like to use it to listen to music and watch movies. I see that is does not have something like circle surround mode that is on kenwoods. Would I be able to use pro logic II to play stereo music through all the speakers, so it would be like 5.1? Thanks

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  2. MartyV

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    I have a 797 and the PLII does a good job of creating a soundstage for music that is to my liking. The 797 also has a dsp stereo mode that all of the lefts front, side, and rear will play the left stereo and all of the rights front, side and rear will play the right stereo sound. I am not sure but would imagine that the 696 as the same dsp.

    Marty.
     
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    The 595 has all channel stereo...which I assume the 696 would. Is that what you're thinking of?
     
  4. Albert M

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    DPL2 is like SRS Circle Surround, the big difference is that DPL2 is a bit more tame with the surrounds. You will be happy with the 5.1 like effect of DPL2.
     
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    CS 5.1 does a much better job than PL-II for music. Personally, I am not that impressed with PL-II. I have gotten away from listening to stereo music in any kind of DSP or matrixed mode as I do not feel it adds anything.
     
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    When poeple first listen to DPL II, they want to really "notice" the surround speakers. With non-surround encoded material, this does not happen. DPL II creates a soundfield that blends beautifully. After listening to DPL II for a while, then switching back to plain stereo, the music sounded (to me) flat and empty in comparison.

    With surround encoded material, you will "notice" more activity in the surrounds. There isn't a lot of surround encoded CDs out there, but I have one which sounds great with DPL II.
     
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    "With surround encoded material, you will "notice" more activity in the surrounds. There isn't a lot of surround encoded CDs out there, but I have one which sounds great with DPL II."

    How does DPL II sound with VHS tapes (2 channel, DPL, Dolby Surround)? How about with certain DVD movies (2 channel PCM, DD2.0)?

    Thanks,

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    DPL II sounds vastly superior to old DPL on Dolby Surround encoded movies.
     
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    "The biggest weakness to the 696's implementation of DPLII is it doesn't provide any adjustment parameters. I think those are available in the 797 and up (and other brand receivers). But having never used them, I don't miss them."

    Even Dolby Pro Logic II-Music?

    My Denon 2802 has music parameters for width, panorama, and depth. The DPL II - Cinema only adjusts for cinema eq which I don't use.

    The DPL II - Music parameters are pretty handy. My center speaker is on the weak side so I have played with the width parameter.
     
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    David,

    The Onkyo 494, 595, & 696, were among the very first receivers to offer DPL II, and do not have the music mode adjustments. The 797 & 898 came later and do offer them.
     
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    I'm not bothered by the lack of adjustable DPLII parameters on my 696; just pointing it out in case Benjamin is an adjustment freak [​IMG]
     
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    When I first got my 595, I threw on the VHS of the original Star Wars trilogy... and was so impressed with the improvement in sound that I watched all three that day. Also, the 2-channel original DVD of Tombstone sounds INCREDIBLE in DPL-II. Even limited fidelity 2-channel tracks like Quigley Down Under sound notably better with DPL-II.

    If you really want to hear DPL-II shine for music, check out the CD HAUNTED by Poe. It's an absolute revelation (and a damn good album).
     
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    Thanks for the feedback about DPL II with VHS and 2 channel movies sources. I am in the process of replacing our Lexicon MC-1 with a different processor, but I wanted to be able to replace Logic 7 with something suitable for 2 channel sources. It sounds like DPL II is that "something". [​IMG]
    Michael
     
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    SRS Circle Surround 2 will be here soon. Go to www.srslabs.com and look to the right and read the December 7th article.
     
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