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Thommy...M

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Thanks for the welcome to the board, Tino.



No assumptions, Tino, it is just looking at the evidence and being a follower of Howard forever. I put forth all facts in the previous post. The "Son Of The Beach" DVD release is the best proof when it comes to Howard and DVDs. He used to devote entire radio shows to promoting each episode when they aired on Tuesday nights. Cast members, guest stars would all be in Howard's studio promoting the hell out of the TV episode to air that night. Reason: Howard was executive producer, Howard had his hand in the till. Yet, when the DVD of "Son Of A Beach" came out, absolutely not one word from Howard. Reason: Howard did not get the sweetheart deal he wanted out of the DVD sales.

Howard recently said he was going to put out a record by Johnny Knoxville's country-bumpkin cousin. It never happened and Knoxville revealed the reason why -- Howard wanted an outrageous percentage of the profits. Not the artist singing the song, but Howard wanted the larger take. That's true and that is the way Howard operates.

A similar issue was just settled with the cast of "Seinfeld." I'm sure you know the supporting players were being denied profits in DVD sales so they balked on Special Feature participation. Thankfully it was settled in the cast's favor, but this seems to be a problem that is now arising due to the phenomenal sales of DVDs. What cut of DVD sales profit are cast members entitled to? Howard believes it is 110%.
 

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While I can not comment on your other thoughts, I can on this. It is wrong. Back when I was only a casual E-Watcher, I remember him having some of the ladies and the guy who played Dick Deitrich on and whored the DVD...

Ryan
 

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Sorry Thommy, but those aren't facts, they are assumptions. Unless you know every aspect of the deals that Howard has made, or not made, it's all speculation on your part.

And you now what they say about assumptions, they make an ass out of you and umptions!;)
 

Thommy...M

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Sorry, RyanAn, but, you might be wrong on Howard promoting the "Son Of The Beach" DVD. The episode you saw was Howard promoting the show he was the executive producer of, not the DVD. Howard never once promoted the "Son Of The Beach" DVD. That DVD was released in April of 2003 and Howard never once promoted it. If he was so keen on promoting the DVD, why doesn't he still promote it? It's only a year old, still on the shelves. Better question: Why is Howard himself not on the DVD at all. No special features, no commentary, completely absent from the DVD. Howard didn't get his sweetheart deal with the "Son Of The Beach" DVD, so like a little baby he took his ball and glove and went home.

(You, yourself admit, RyanAn, that you are a "casual' watcher of Howard. I, on the other hand, have no life, I haven't missed a second of Howard's radio program in over a decade, and believe me, he never mentioned the DVD release of "Son of the Beach." I learned about its release from sites like this, not from Howard.)

This same greed on Howard's part is taking place with the PRIVATE PARTS DVD, his channel nine TV show, and it probably explains the delay in the uncensored E! show DVD release he has promised for over a year.
 

Thommy...M

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Tino, if I find a dead dog in the middle of the Long Island Expressway, I can make the assumption the poor thing didn't die of old age. That assumption would probably be 99.9% correct.

Of course, I'm speculating about the non-release of a PRIVATE PARTS Special Edition DVD, but I'm using Howard's history and his statements (Paramount won't sell him the rights because they don't want to be embarrased by the sales Howard would generate? Come on, now. Do you believe that?) to come to the conclusion that Howard is very demanding. Howard did everything to promote PRIVATE PARTS. Newspaper interviews, tv appearances, MTV premier special, Howard was a good little soldier. Don't you think at a later date he was asked to do some extra work on a DVD? Why wouldn't Paramount ask him, he was very cooperative the whole way. But here's where Howard's history comes into play. You want something from me, I want something big from you.

Howard is very shrewd in business dealings. Too shrewd. Because of it we don't have the channel nine show on DVD, a PRIVATE PARTS Special Edition, or Howard on any "Son of the Beach" extra features. We lose. It's not Paramount, nor channel 9, nor Fox TV that is screwing us when it comes to Howard related DVD material. Howard seems to be the main ingredient in all those lame or non-existent DVDs. Logic dictates that Howard, not those three different entities, is the one playing hardball and when things don't go the way he wants, he runs off the field.
 

Thommy...M

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Can you prove that Howard Stern is working hard to get a Special Edition DVD out? The fact that it isn't out proves I might be onto something about Howard's hardball business dealings.

Here's a question: Why didn't Howard ever promote the DVD release of PRIVATE PARTS? He promoted the hell out of the film, promoted the hell out of the soundtrack (appeared in a Porno For Pyros video from it, created a contest to find the gold CD soundtrack), yet did nothing to promote the DVD of PRIVATE PARTS. There's the proof. No huge profit for Howard, no participation from Howard. Deal with it Howard is a little on the greedy side and because of it, we lose.
 

Paul_Stachniak

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Likewise, Paramount owns the film and doesn't require Stern's permission to re-release the film. Why wont they? Certainly because they can't get Stern to participate in the features, but so many other DVD released have faced similar problems and been released regardless. Look at the X-Files sets, where was Duchovny or Anderson? Did it hinder sales? No.

Paramount could re-release this film with some EPKs, or at least an anamorphic transfer, but I doubt they will because they don't consider it any sort of sales hit.
 

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I don't know much about Stern except what I've seen in Private Parts, I've never heard his show. But as for a SE, here's my thought: PP has been in the Wal-Mart bargain bins for quite some time. I can't think of anything I've seen in the bin that (so far) has come out with an improved edition. In fact, often what's in the bin *is* the latest/greatest/improved version, so my interpretation is the bin is the end of the line. In this format.
 

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I always considered Son of the Beach to be a bad show. I just couldn't stand it. I never have and never will buy the set.
And I'm a big Stern fan.

I would love to have all the channel 9 stuff, E! stuff (uncensored and in season box sets) and an SE of Private Parts.

Howard said awhile back that there will be an announcement comming out in mid-August about the E! show DVDs so it should be coming anyday now. :)
 

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I just bought Private Parts in a bargain bin at Walmart for $6.99 Canadian. I think it's pretty much official that Paramount is no longer making money on this...Time for an SE. :)
 

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When the "Private Parts" DVD was first released, I remember Stern apologizing for the lack of any special features. He was just getting into DVD himself, and said that when he asked Paramount about putting extras on the disc, the execs "looked at me like I was from Mars or something" (I'm paraphrasing).

Like I said earlier, Paramount was very leery about the whole format in those days. Weren't ALL of their early releases bare-bones affairs?

Just for the record, I would LOVE to have the second season of "Son of the Beach" on DVD...
 

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Oh that's an easy one. Because very few DVD players were installed in North America at the time of its release. Why bother spending the time (=money) to promote it when the vast majority of his listeners didn't have DVD players yet?


Oh... and thanks for using my name 3 times in your reply.
 

Mike Heenan

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Didn't FX cancel the show, or move it to a night where it lost it's ratings, etc? I seem to recall stern talkinga bout this, perhaps that's why he has no interest in the DVD version as it would help FX and he hates them. Also, a few years ago, I remember a caller asking him about the DVD release and he said that was his old life and had no interest in revisiting it. Good to hear he's possibly changed his mind. Him being greedy is a matter of opinion. After all, I would rather him get the better of the deal than a corporation after all it's his life story and he acted in it, etc. Nothing wrong with wanting too much money were anyone else in his shoes they'd probably be doing the same.
 

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They canceled it after they noticed The Sheild was getting better ratings in the same timeslot.
 

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I agree with some of the posts that no one has shown any proof that Howard is playing hardball.

However, I get a very bad impression of Howard in that he seems totally self absorbed. He constantly complains about his persecution by the FCC, and some of that is real. However at the end of the day he is highly paid and is show is still on and still very raunchy.

Major djs like Opie and Anthony have been fired due to fcc pressure and he says nothing. (I know he has a beef with them but he could show some words of support for other people pushing the envelope)
 

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I seem to remember that when Private Parts was released on DVD, Howard wasn't even aware of it. I could be wrong, but for some reason I think a caller is the one that informed him about the release.

I really doubt the lack of extras on the Private Parts DVD has anything to do with Stern. We've seen Betty Thomas involved in DVDs of her other films - I'm willing to bet that if she had been asked and Paramount had been interested, there could've at least been a commentary track from Thomas.
 

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I could be wrong, but I could of sworn he had a copy of the DVD in his hand. Maybe not... But either way, he has said he liked the show. I on the otherhand have never seen an episode, so I do not know why I am getting worked up over it.

Ryan
 

Mark Silver

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You can't prove a negative, but I thought it was pretty well known (in fact Howard has admitted it a couple times), that if he is involved in a project, and he doesn't get a share of the profits, he doesn't promote it. Pure and simple.

I too believe, from years of experience with Howard and his products, that the DVD Special Edition is more of a hang-up with Howard than Paramount.

I have no doubt that if Howard agreed tomorrow to do a commentary for free with no share of the profits, Paramount would set a new record for getting this DVD to the market.

That being said, I don't expect Howard to work for free, and I don't expect Paramount to rollover for him. Hence the stalemate.
 

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