President Bush Signs Order Keeping "Area 51" Top Secret (1 Viewer)

[Bruce Hedtke]

Given the size of the universe

Looks like you answered your own question. To us, Earth is teeming with life and activity. Now, put yourself on, say Neptune (not even out of our solar system) and what does Earth resemble? Just another planet floating around in space, of which there are theoretically billions or even trillions. With the vast distance of space, even if aliens existed on Mars...that doesn't mean we would ever cross paths. It's always assumed that aliens would be generations ahead of us intellectually. Why? Could it be possible that aliens are as grounded to their planet as we are to ours? From what we know, the only evidence that would support the alien intelligence being far superior to ours is intergalactic travel or means of contact. So far, we haven't had any such evidence. Until that happens, I will believe there is abundant life in the universe, but none if it contains the ability to communicate with others.

Bruce

 

[Holadem]

and probably a pretty silly one inasmuch as government control was a lot more thorough in the ancient days of god-kings and emperors than in the last 150 years

Thank you, that's all I wanted to hear
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Holadem

 

[Michael St. Clair]

but none if it contains the ability to communicate with others.

Yet.

 

[Cees Alons]

Very good points, Bruce.
I like to add one: time. We exist for how long now? 3 million years? Make that 3 million more. That's still less than a wink in the total lifetime of the universe. So those different flashes of life here and there (if they really exist), also have very little chance to live in the same period as well! Even if you "shift" those periodes to count for the time signals have to travel through space, chances are very small they will arrive there were needed (pass by actually) during the proper period.

Cees

 

[Glenn Overholt]

I look at it this way, (and I know that this isn't worth much). Making the wild guess that all of the planets formed at about the same time, civilization would progress at an equal pace, so every planet would be more or less where we were, except that I can't discount the Dark Ages.

Except for 1066, not much of anything happened for 1000 years. What if another another planet skipped that? If they were 1000 years ahead of us, and going at the rate that we have progressed in the last 400 years, they could be way ahead of us.

Glenn

 

[Jeff Ulmer]

The planets wouldn't all form at the same time, nor would evolution occur at the same rate or in the same way on every planet. Given infinite possibilities, there is little reason to assume anything like Earth's history would be repeated elsewhere, or that this is the norm.

Even if there were extraterrestrial life that could reach us, perhaps they might not consider us civilised enough to bother with. After all, we have been hovering on the brink of destroying ourselves for the past 60 years, and we don't seem to be getting any closer to world peace than we were in the 1940s, and that's not even taking into account our unsustainable consumption of resources, pollution and so forth. While we consider ourselves the most intelligent life on the planet, a lot of the things we do are not very intelligent at all.

 

[Peter Overduin]

These bad boys were made in Canada

It's the best we could after the Avro Arrow.

That's what is really stored at Area 51, but it was so far ahead of its time that they still aren't recognized for what they really were!

 

[Holadem]

Except for 1066, not much of anything happened for 1000 years.

What happened in 1066?

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Holadem

 

[Joseph DeMartino]

When William the Conqueror landed he lay down on the beach and swallowed two mouthfuls of sand. This was his first conquering action and was in the South; later he ravaged the North as well.
The Norman Conquest was a Good Thing, as from that time onwards England stopped being conquered and thus was able to become top nation.

Regards,
Joe

 

[LDfan]

The only thing certain about Area 51 and the existence of UFOs/Aliens is that nobody knows for sure. We can only guess.
Now for the priveldged few that have access to this kind of stuff of course know many of the answers but of course could never leak anything out to the public without having a couple of Langley boys come knocking on their doors.
Jeff

 

[Joseph DeMartino]

The only thing certain about Area 51 and the existence of UFOs/Aliens is that nobody knows for sure.

Actually, on the evidence, and on our general knowledge of the way the universe works, we are entirely justified in denying that UFOs are alien spacecraft and that they have anything whatsoever to do with the Nellis test range. It is not impossible to reach a quite definite conclusion on these issues based on the fact that none of the so-called "evidence" of alien visitors has every stood up to close examination. At best there is a tiny residue of reported observations of unidentified flying objects that cannot be readily explained by mundane causes. But only if we believe that the people making the reports are both honest and reliable observers. Apart from that there is zero actual evidence to support the extraordinary claim that against all likelihood aliens have found a way of exceeding the speed of light and somehow become so interested in this obscure little planet that they've been visiting it hundreds of times a year for thousands of years without once revealing themselves explicitly or leaving a single identifiable physical artifact in their wake.

That's not a "guess". That's an evaluation of the "evidence" that has been produced over the past sixty years or so in support of this odd idea - which is wholly inadequate to convince anyone who doesn't already have a desire to believe that there is anything to it at all. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs." Thus far the UFO believers haven't even managed to produce ordinary proofs.


Regards,

Joe