pre-pro for only 129.99???

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  1. Geno

    Geno Supporting Actor

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    I purchased the Midiland ADS 4000 last week and finally got time to play around with it over the weekend. For reference, I have a jvc dvd player and a b&k video 5 [5x105]
    My speakers are no bigger than bookshelves so I cant really get too trechnical.
    Although I believe this was designed for a pc/gaming application, it works with my HT. I purchased this unit because 1) I am trying to stay within budget, 2)I wanted a remote control. I previously used the dvd player's decoder and used a DIY passive preamp [no remote] 3)I wanted DPL for cable tv.
    This little bugger has DD, DTS, DPL, 3speaker, stadium, theater, and music settings. Bass management, delay settings, volume settings. DD and DTS are auto-detected.
    First off, here are the only problems I have encountered so far. When I turn on my TV, there is a gap in sound for a second. If I isolate my tv from the Midiland, outlet wise, this shouldnt happen. Also, when I am changing volume, I hear a click or something at multiples of 10. Lowest volume is -74 db and highest is 0. I listen from -40 to -15 depending on time of day/what I am listening to.
    Besides those things, I am happy with my purchase. It did sound a bit bright to me, but as I said, my speakers are far from perfect and I cannot make many assumtions. This unit is great for those just getting into seperates or for those looking for a receiver just for the pre-outs. It does not include a tuner. Also, it does not deal with any video signals at all, which might make things a bit confusing when switching inputs.
    All in all I give it a 8/10
    It could probably use better circutry inside and I wish it was THX capable.
    For more info, go to www.midiland.com
    Model # ADS 4000
    Price: $129.99
    go to http://www.midiland.com/manuals.asp
    for detailed info.
    I will try to answer any questions you might have
    geno
     
  2. Jason Wilcox

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    wow..i can't beleive noone ever thought of this before.
     
  3. Geno

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    I know, there was no way I'd spend $2000 on a nice pre-pro.
    Just not in my budget. This unit basically completes my setup. now I can upgrade to some nice speakers and have some $$$ left over! I wonder if any other companies have any products like this one
     
  4. Jason Wilcox

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    klipsch makes something very similiar....pretty much identical

    only downside is the lack of 5.1 analog inputs for SACD or DVD-A...right?

    Edit: also, what is the LFE crossover set at? is it adjustable?
     
  5. Geno

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    Yeah, dang I would have spent just a bit more for the klipsch if I had known. Analog inputs on the midiland are mini jacks. I only use one input though so it dont really matter.
    Bass management has 4 settings, I havent hooked up sub yet so I havent played with it.
     
  6. John Parris

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    I can't find the product on Klipsch's website-- anyone have a link to the product info site?
    Anywho- very interesting development. I know a lot of people with soundcards with optical output but no onboard DD/DTS, so this would be of great interest to them I think. Thanks for the heads-up. Great idea. [​IMG]
     
  7. Geno

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    geno....when you have the time i'd really appreciate it if you could find out what frequencies you could set the LFE crossover at.
     
  9. Geno

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    look at the link to the manual above, it might tell you otherwise, ill let you know tommorow
     
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    This is an interesting critter indeed, especially the Klipsch version. It reminds me of the Technics SH-AC500D except maybe the 500 can do a little more with 6 channel pass through.

    My SH-AC500 is not functioning properly and this could be an inexpensive replacement.

    Geno

    Thanks for the interesting post.

    Artie
     
  11. Martin Rendall

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    Reading the manual (available online), it crosses over at 120 htz only. But combine this device with an Outlaw ICBM, and it could be a pretty winning combo - if it sounds any good, of course.

    It even offers time delay for the surround speakers!

    Martin.
     
  12. Jason Wilcox

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    hmm....it mentions the LFE for dolby digital being 20-120hz. but it's sorta sketchy. hopefully it isn't 120hz as that would make it easy to point out where the sub is due to localization at the higher frequencies.

    Edit: martin beat me to it! anybody know what the LFE crossover is on the klipsch?
     
  13. Geno

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    Ill do some tests tonite to see If I can change the LFE xover point. I thought I read somewhere that i could...
     
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    Jason,

    The Klipch was the one I was looking at.

    Martin.
     
  15. Jason Wilcox

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    oh! ok

    hmm...i say we all write some emails to the guys at klipsch and midiland to include 6 channel analog inputs and an adjustable LFE crossover on the next version of their decoders. midiland especially because klipsch makes a pre/pro (aragon).
     
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  17. Jason Wilcox

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    yeah but i think it is sorta silly to buy the ICBM for $70 more than the pre/pro. for $430 you can get a pretty descent receiver to use as a pre/pro (with 6 channel analog inputs and an LFE crossover less than 100hz)

    a logitech speaker system which should be released in a few months comes with a decoder with dts, DD, DPLII, and 6 channel analog inputs. Hopefully they sell it separately.
     
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    Just out of curiousity, what is the least expensive preamp or receiver on the market that features analog bass management for SACD and DVD-A?
     
  20. Geno

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    Looks like a few more pc/gaming speaker companies are joining the bandwagon. Ive seen a couple of other "little boxes" like the midiland and the Klipsch. Ill try to post them as I see them
     

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