I may be jumping to conclusion but I've never seen them at such low prices from authorized dealers. $129 and $249 each for the C3 and C5. 4's are $175 a pair. 6's @ $250, 8's @ $500, 10's @ $600 and 12's @ $800. And I think OneCall has them in their clearance center already. I know I've been a little hard on the RTi's of late since I replaced them with something else, but they are still a very good speaker and are now priced more in line with the competition. Only problem is I think I screwed myself by not selling the 7 I still have yet ! I know, it couldn't have happened to a nicer person .