POLICE Remasters. Whaaaaaaaaaaat?!

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  1. Darren Pillans

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    I understand The Police back catalogue will be remastered for SACD and that's cool.

    But "Sting.com" says there'll be new remasters for standard CD also.

    They were already remastered in 1995 by the same guy that did the Sting Remasters (David Collins).

    What bugs me is that I just recently forked out the cash replacing my entire Police collection to now hear it's being Re-Remastered!

    Can anyone tell me what the deal is here?

    PLEASE?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    The SACD's are up for preorder on Elusive for a 03/04/03 release.

    Edit: Both the DSOTM & the Police SACD's are lsited.
     
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    Justin,

    Thank you for the information. Maybe we get something official soon.
     
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    It is disappointing that we are going to see separate Police remastered CDs and SACDs. However, assuming that the CDs are prepared from the DSD masters, they should be better than the current Police CDs available. If that is the case, then I would be happy to see remastered CDs instead of just single-layer SACDs. It could be worse.
     
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    I have the "Message in a Box" box set, and I didn't think I was missing all that much fidelity in the first place since those recordings were very clean anyway.

    What would I be gaining by getting remasters? I know nobody can really answer this until the remasters are released, but are the CDs (and specifially, the box set CDs) known to have problems?

    -JNS
     
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    Jeff, I realize what you are saying, but there certainly is potential for remastered CDs prepared from DSD masters to sound better than older remasters. Technology aside, it seems as though great care is being taken in preparing DSD masters (going back to the original master tapes, no over tweaking of the EQ, etc.). Hopefully this trend will continue with the new Police remasters.
     
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    Even though the only Police I have is the DTS 'Every Breath You Take', I'll probably start off with the hybrid of that, just to compare Redbook to SACD. If the Redbook is comparable, maybe I'll just go for the remasters.

    ARGH! just make em' all hybrids damit@##$#$%
     
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    Brian, a DSD master can be made directly from the analog tape, taking advantage of the immensely higher sampling rate. Some folks have argued that the benefits of such a DSD master should be audible on both SACDs and CDs derived from it. Others more technically knowledgeable than I might be able to shed some light here...
     
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    At least one leading engineer (Steve Hoffman) feels that going to intermediate digital formats is not the way to get the best quality out of each format, and that each digital format should be mastered directly from the original tapes.

    It would be interesting to hear what other leading engineers have to say on the matter.
     
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    I'm not a leading engineer, but any remasters to digital should be derived from the original analog master tapes (assuming they are available. A DSD remaster would benefit from the better converters and sample rates available, but that does not equate to a downconversion and format conversion for CD from that DSD remaster (which is technically not a remaster, since it's never been mastered to DSD before). For the CDs to be done properly, they should be a seperate remaster from the original tapes.

    Stick Bob Ludwig behind the console and I'll be impressed, otherwise, it's anyone's guess.
     
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