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Jeff Rogers

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Inspired by the recent talk back over at aintitcool....

What does everyone think about this? Should Disney lay back and let Pixar have their way? Is pixar asking for too much? Will Pixar's earnings suffer without the Disney name? Ohhh so much drama.

In my opinion, I think that with Disney closing shop on traditional 2 animation, that they should be groveling to keep Pixar happy.

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Should Disney lay back and let Pixar have their way?
Pixar created the product, why shouldnt they get their way?
I think Pixar should go for the best possible deal with any studio.

Disney hasnt come up with anything decent in the last few years without Pixar, they should give Pixar a better deal or Pixar should go elsewhere.
 

Matthew_Millheiser

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Disney hasnt come up with anything decent in the last few years without Pixar
Well, I wouldn't go that far. Sure, Treasure Planet flopped big time, but Lilo & Stitch was a huge hit, The Emperor's New Groove is pretty much beloved by many animation fans (and recouped its costs in home video and foreign sales), and Atlantis is nowhere near as bad as it's made out to be.

But yeah, they should pony up and let Pixar do whatever they want. Take your distribution check and shaddup, Eisner!
 

Paul W

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After Michael Eisner stuck it to Pixar over Toy Story 2, I hope Pixar jumps ship. I think they deserve a better partner than Di$ney.
 

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I hope Pixar gets whatever they want, as they are the only consitent studio out there for amazing product. BUT.....the general public only looks at the Disney name. Sure, some see Pixar and think the quality, but a majority of people only see Disney on there. I think it might hurt their earnings to jump ship, but I honestly want Pixar to be on their own without the Disney name somewhat corrupting their image as THE best studio out there.
 

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Disney, Pixar close to deal
DISTRIBUTION TALKS WERE CONTENTIOUS
New York Times

LOS ANGELES - Pixar Animation Studios, the maker of hits such as ``Toy Story'' and this summer's blockbuster ``Finding Nemo,'' and Walt Disney have agreed in general on a compromise that could clear the way for Disney to continue distributing Pixar's films, according to two people close to the negotiations.

Complete story here.
 

Mikel_Cooperman

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I hope Pixar gets whatever they want, as they are the only consitent studio out there for amazing product. BUT.....the general public only looks at the Disney name.
I dont believe that is true. Maybe on the Pixars early stuff but they have pretty much established their own name now.
I dont think Pixar needs Disney anymore.
 

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And even if, say, Warner winds up with the rights to Pixar's next X films, a big "From the makers of Toy Story, Monsters Inc., and Finding Nemo" on every poster and trailer, along with their house style, should make up for a lot of the loss of Disney's name.
 

Peter Kline

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Say guys, they're in the final sprint in signing with Disney. WB is not in the running according to the above article and a more extensive original one in the New York Times. Pixar doesn't want Disney to own rights to the charcaters in the first batch of films, which they would if Pixar went elsewhere. They are good for each other. Nobody has the marketing clout and expertise - all over the world, as Disney has. And believe it or not, Pixar does listen to Disney on substantive creative and marketing matters. Don't believe that Pixar will continue to hit home runs either. They will eventually see less enthusiasm for their product from the public. We are a fickle group.
 

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I'll have to say that whatever Pixar chooses will turn out to be the wrong decision.

:)

Steve Jobs is great at starting "insanely great" new things, but leave him in charge long enough and he'll eventually shoot himself in the foot.
 

Ray Chuang

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I personally think that Pixar will stay with Disney. The reason is simple: Disney's marketing muscle for family-oriented films is unmatched by any other movie company on this planet, no contest.

I personally believe that Pixar will likely get a deal where instead of Disney getting 50% of the box office revenues they get something more like 15-20% at most.
 

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Actually, if Pixar did jump ship, and then tried to say "From the creators of Toy Story, etc" disney would probably shut them down for it, as they would claim they are infringing on the disney name in some way. The only reason I think this is because of a similar situation when I Know What You Did Last Summer came out. The original ads and posters said "from the creator of Scream?" meaning the movie was written by Kevin Williamson. Then , Miramax sued Columbia for using that, as they alleged that he didnt create it, he only wrote it, and Wes Craven was a co creator. I see their point on it, but at the same time its ludicrous to sue over that. I can see Disney suing saying "we helped create toy story, it has our name before the title" if Pixar used the "Created by" line
 

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Since it appears that Disney has the right of first refusal, it will make sure it gets the best deal before Pixar even gets a chance to open it up to a possible bidding war with other studios.

~Edwin ô¿ô
 

Stephen_L

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I think Pixar should stayed linked up with Disney; that way the creative folks at the CGI studio could invest their energies on making superior films then leave the marketing and merchandising to Disney, who are masters of those skills. It also separates Pixar from the taint of commercialism that often haunts Disney. Disney produces good product (Lilo and Stitch, Emperor's New Groove, Tarzan as well as the older classics) but their intense saturation marketing and merchandizing often leaves folks with a bad taste in their mouth. By letting Disney control marketing Pixar gets the merchandising and promotion muscle without the associated nasty over-commercialized aftertaste.
 

Moe Maishlish

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I can see Disney suing saying "we helped create toy story, it has our name before the title" if Pixar used the "Created by" line.
The easiest and best way to get around a situation like that would be to be more specific... for example, Pixar could say "From the co-createors of [Name Your CGI Film Here]...". Most movie-advertisements use "From the writer/director/producer of...", so I don't see why this would be a big stretch.

As for Pixar moving, I don't see them doing any better with anyone else, and moving out on their own would require a little acclimatizing to marketing/merchandizing/distributing/etc., but that's all under the covers. I think if the product is good enough, then the who's and what's are inconsequential.

In the end, it's all about $$$ anyway.

Moe.
 

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