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Pioneer VSX-D811S

Discussion in 'AV Receivers' started by Camm, Apr 29, 2003.

  1. Camm

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    As of right now I own a kenwood vr-3080 and was looking to upgrade[​IMG] This receiver has all the options I'm looking for but I am worried about problems (never owned any pioneer products) can anyone tell me about build quality both inside and out of the pioneer brand? I did a web search and all I can find is e-tailers and nothing here. So I am turning to the pros for some help

    thanks
     
  2. Earl_Ba

    Earl_Ba Auditioning

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    The D811s are good models but are now discontinued. The model replacing it is the 912k. Both are good receivers for watching movies. Very little change between the old and the new.
     
  3. ChadLB

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    Take this as an opinion and nothing else. As a owner of the 811 I agree with alot of other people out there. For HT it does the job and has all the formats most HT people look for. For music well I have seen/heard better. The one thing nice about the 811 it does have preouts if you want to add an external amplifier like I am going to do in the next 3 months hopefully. Like many people have said for the price it does seem to offer the most.
     
  4. Geoff L

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    Don't want to hi-jack the thread but like Camm I have a number of question dealing with this Receiver.

    1)-Is the front face real metal, or a plastic composit of some sort?

    2)-Anyone running external amps on some or all channels and is their a major difference is sound quailty, Stereo and HT?

    3)-Dose it have a tape monitor for insertion of a parametric eq when doing 2-channel?

    4)-Dose anyone know the "REAL" contious power output ~ 20hz-20Khz at what % distortion, in Stereo and also HT when all channels are drive?

    5)-When using the receivers own Internal Amps for Stereo & HT, would you consider it to be to the bright side, laid back, neutral, weaker bottom end, etc?

    6)-Given we have space constraints for DEPTH of the receiver in the Bedroom, could someone measure ~{just the receivers "CASE" from front edge to back edge,,,LESS buttons, knobs, and rear jacks}~??? --->(In inches please)..
    This is very important as it's a makeer or breaker, it has to fit!

    7)-Given there is no on screen display, is the receiver user friendly to set up????

    8)-The receiver would be driving some what un-effiecent speakers all 6-ohm loads at 87db @ 1-meter 1-watt, but in a smaller to med sized room.
    Room Size is -->(14' x 18' x 8')
    Speakers would more than likely be run as small along with a quailty powered sub used of course.
    Given this information in question (8), could you give me your best guess of wheather the receiver would run warm, cool, possibly even hot, when using it's own amps and listening at a good volume, say -10 under ref????
    (It will be open to full ventelation, not enclosed anywhere)

    Very sorry for all the question, but this would help me & moma "allot" in a decision process to get the newest formates in our bedroom. I have done a search and was unable to find the detailed information I would like.

    Thank you very much to all that may reply with information as it will be "Extremely Helpfull" to me!!!!!

    Regards
    Geoff

    Edit:
    I do have external amps I could run but being a bedroom system I doubt I would use them.
     
  5. ChadLB

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  6. Geoff L

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    Chad

    Thank you very much for being able to answer a few of my questions.

    Anything anyone can answer that Chad was unable to due to not being home would really be VERY appreciated.

    Questions 1, 6, & 8, owner observations are needed.....

    Question 8 dealing with driving a 6-ohm load will be very helpfull.

    The depth of the receiver is "very needed" less the knobs, buttons, and rear jacks. ~{Just the case front edge to rear edge}~?????

    Thx much
    Geoff
     
  7. Tony Casler

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    I just picked up an 811S to replace my old 810 that was broken by the movers when I transfered. I have noticed that the bass from SACD/DVD-A isn't nearly as strong on this receiver as it was on the 810. I would appreciate any help I can get, as it sounds rather anemic right now.
     
  8. Geoff L

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    Tony

    I know some of the Pioneers have a bass Peek Limiter or LFE Pad on them, this besides the regular sub volume,,,, and this needs to be set correctly.
    "Don't know" if the 811 has this but something you may want to check out in the owners manual.

    Also your remark on the power and bass ability compared to your previous Pioneer receiver sound less than thrilling...

    Another question 811 owners:
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    Dose anyone know the max amperage draw of the VSX-D811S if they list it?
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    I can not access PDF files due to being on crap Web-Tv, so I'm unable to go to Pioneers on line VSX-D811S owners manual PDF file! [​IMG]

    Again, thanks much to anyone that can answer my question here and above...

    Geoff
     
  9. Tony Casler

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    The only material that has this issue is DVD-A/SACD through the 5.1 inputs. Digital signals sound as good as, if not better than the 810. I would consider the 811S to be a good receiver for it's price (I got mine for $275), but I really only bought it to have something to replace the 810 while I'm saving for a 49TXi to go with my 47Ai DVD player.
     
  10. Tony Casler

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    After much tweaking of the channel levels, I finally managed to get a decent bass response. Now that I have it all dialed in, I like it better than the old 810. I still can't wait until I have enough for the 49TXi, though.
     
  11. Geoff L

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    Tony
    Good to know that the week bass dynamics seems unfortuantly linked to the SCAD & DVD-A sound quality. This certainly might make for a big turn off for some.

    This would NOT be a problem for me as this bedroom HT won't be making use of either SCAD o DVD-A....

    DVD movies, Cable TV, and a little CD/FM-Tuner action would be it's primary usage..

    Tony, Chad, or Anyone with the VSX-D811
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    Could someone please be kind enough to measure the case DEPTH front edge to back edge (no knobs or rear jacks)???

    I need this info to be able to tell if it will fit first... [​IMG]
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    My other questions above would really end up being moot if it's case is to DEEP to fit in it's home....[​IMG]

    Many many thanks to whom can provide the ~{depth measurement}~ for me! [​IMG]

    Regards
    Geoff
     
  12. Steve Adams

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    I have the 810, the sound is great, like most said, adding an external amp would help greatly. im going to get a mcintosh amp to run my ht setup in my new house. but as for right now the thing works my psb alphas good!
     
  13. ChadLB

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    I would assume the depth/width are true to its measurements on pioneers website. The only diff would be the height without the feet.
     
  14. Geoff L

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    Well I am not going to guess or take Pioneers word or it! They Pioneer and web sites selling it, say 16-3/8" to 16-1/16", but I am sure this is with the knobs, etc......

    Also living out in the middle of no where, I have to drive 60 miles just to go measure one.

    Most brands measure depth adding the RCA's and volume Knob to the measurement. So this is why I need, and would like (just the case measurment front to back edge) less knobs, buttons, and RCA's.......

    Dose any 811 owners have a tape measure and a minute of their time to help me out?????

    Thanks
    Geoff
     
  15. ChadLB

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    If it is not done sometime during the day I can do it after work which is about 4:30.
    You just want depth w no knobs invovled?
     
  16. Geoff L

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    Chad

    Thank you, and yes NO KNOBS, BUTTONS, OR RCA JACKS, just the ~{case front edge to rear edge}~!

    Thank you and I appreciate it very much....

    Regards
    Geoff
     
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    60 miles brings you to what store.....curiosity.....
     
  18. Geoff L

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    Grand Rapids Michigan, second largest city in lower MI.

    Stores:
    All the usualls, B&M High End, and also the typial BB, CC, ECT. Not sure if I can even find a store that would have one left to measure as it's been replaced by the new model.

    If purchased, it would be on-line anyway and for the bedroom.

    Waiting for your depth measurment Chad, and thank you in advance, it will be very very appreciated!!!!!!

    Regards
    Geoff
     
  19. Tom Rags

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    Geoff:

    13 15/16" from front to back without the knobs.
    16.5" from left to right
    6.25" high at it's largest point

    Take care...

    --Tom
     
  20. Geoff L

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    Tom:

    Thank you very very much!

    This is (definitly for the VSX-D811S or 811K), RIGHT?

    S is Silver and K is Black, should be absoulty no difference between them.

    Quite a difference from the 16-3/8 that most places quote. If this is the actual depth from front case edge to back case edge then were in it!!!

    As Garth would say, "Most Excellent"!!!

    Again thank you so much for taking them time to check this for me!!!!!

    Regards
    Geoff
     

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