I've been strongly considering the Pioneer Elite 47TX as its a 7.1 system with a lot of very desirable features. Its been a real consideration between it and the Outlaw 770/950 systems with the Pioneer leading right now due to the extra features. But today I decided to try to have my wife contact a local "HT dealer" who carries several brands to find out some information about their store and what they carry, etc. My wife mentioned we're considering the Pioneer and the first thing the dealer stated was that he recommends the Marantz's and strongly discourages the Pioneer's as the latter are not at all quality. He can get the Pioneer's but don't feel they are very good. From everything I've read, the Pioneer Elite line is every bit the equal of the Marantz, but maybe a bit cheaper priced, especially when you consider that the Marantz 9200 is about 2800 and the Elite can be had for 1800-2500. Unfortunately, this dealer is very typical of the dealers in the area where I live and is a good reason why I'm not leaning towards purchasing from local dealer, even though I don't mind paying a bit extra for "good quality" service. Is the Marantz 9200 or 8200 either seriously better than the Pioneer Elite? For example, I'd consider both the Denon 5803 and the Naim Nait amplifier to be seriously better than the Pioneer Elite 47Tx, but the price is also noticeably higher. Or is this a case where the dealer is authorized to sell Marantz and not Pioneer and not being totally honest, wants only to sell his products, regardless?