pioneer cld-d406 good or not???

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  1. Eddie Sanchez

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    I don't have a laserdisc player been looking for one and found one at local pawn shop for $89 dollars. Is this a good laserdisc player???? Can it play DTS and DD???? If you saw it would you buy it????? Does it sound like a good buy??? THanks
     
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    Yes it is a great price if it works. It will do DD and DTS - has an optical out for DTS and a coax out for DD.
     
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    can I run the digital out directly to my reciever to decode DD and DTS just like my DVD player???? Or do I need something else?????
     
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    I dont think the 405 has DTS(optical) but does have ac-3.

    Eddie: you can run ac-3 through a demux but no DTS. even the link shows no DTS on that model if I read it correctly.

    great price for sure if it in nice shape, id pick it up.
     
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    Any player that has a digital out can be run into a device or receiver that has DTS decoding capability. So the optical digital out of the 406 into a DTS decoder would be fine. Dolby Digital or AC-3 is a different animal, and in order to get it you need another device called an RF demodulator. These can go used from just below the mid $100s to low $200s for a basic model (the B&K listed for $500 and the Lexicon for $700 and these might be a bit more). A few high end receivers from a few cos. also had the device built in. For example, the Marantz SR-18 had it, but when Marantz issued the SR-18EX, it was eliminated. RF is 'Radio Frequency' the the dolby digital bitstream is carried on an analog track and then demodulated before being sent to the receiver. For non-digital laserdiscs of course you can use the analog outs.
     
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    unless I cant read those specs on that link and from what I have read the 406 does not have optical digital out.

    yes any dummy knows optical out works on a reciever with DTS decoding but like I siad the 406 does not have that feature (optical out) . Im just trying to help so this guy isnt confused and thinking this player has optical out when it doesnt.
     
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    This is how the LD player that I want to buy looks like and by lookin at the pictures it does have Optical Out. If it says "AC-3 Dolby
    Digital out" Wouldn't this LD player be ready to decode DD without using a RF demodulator. Just straight into the reciever???? Or am I not understading something....
    http://www.hevanet.com/gillesp/cld-d406.html
     
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    no...you need an rf demodulator. not the same signal.
     
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    Ralph, the 406 does in fact have an optical digital out, I've owned one.
     
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    Here are of the details about the 406:

    CLD-D406


    Pioneer CLD-406 Laser Disc Player
    Digital Video Processing System
    Last Memory with review Mode
    425 Horizontal lines Of Resolution
    Repeat Mode (7)
    Video Signal To Noise Ratio:49dB
    Display Off
    Power Requirements: AC120VAC,60Hz
    Power Consumption: 29W
    Dual Sided LD Playback E-Turn
    Independant CD Tray
    AC-3 RF Output
    2 Composite Video Outputs
    2 Composite Audio Outputs
    Optical Digital Output
    SR (System Remote) Control Unit (P=Power On/Off)
    Dimensions: 16-9/16"W x 5-3/16"H x 15-15/16"D
    Weight: 14.1 LBS. Net.
     
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    Thanks Phil A.
     
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    Phil, you are absolutely right. If the unit is in good working order it is a steal. I'd buy it for that price as well. If nothing else, it makes a very good CD transport that will rival using more modern stuff that is several times the price. LD players and demodulators are getting a little harder to come by. Pioneer stopped making their LD line and I understand also discontinued their Japanese flagship models. Even the sound from LDs in analog is not too shabby.
     
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    well those specs are wrong for sure! wish my 505 had optical out and the other options. I thought the 505 was a higher model. bummer for me even though the video is higher and looks quite good id also like the digital options and optical. buy it before someone else does.
     
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    Ralph, not sure when the 505 was made but when I look at a used LD player, I usually go to a site like: http://www.laserdiscarchive.co.uk/pioneer1.htm
    This for some reason, unless I missed it, does not list the 505. But it gives good info on the age of players.
     
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    Despite the lack of a digital output the 505 is definitely a better machine than the 406.
     
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    The 505 delivers a little better pic, 50 db.
     
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    I had the 'D406 for about a year-and-a-half, and it was a solid player. Note that it was my only laserdisc player, so I have no basis for comparison. Since it can do DTS, I feel it is definitely worth $89 if it works and is in good condition. The only thing I didn't like about the 'D406 is I felt it was an awful CD transport (optical digital output to my receiver).
     
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    Philip, the 'D406 definitely was a budget model. I bought mine in July 2000 brand new for $425 (and have since sold it), and the build quality was average. On the plus side, the 'D406 enjoys the distinction of being the last LD/CD player Pioneer made. [​IMG]
     

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