PHONO input on Receiver, what if you don't have one?

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by elMalloc, Nov 9, 2002.

  1. elMalloc

    elMalloc Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2001
    Messages:
    787
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I read of something like a:
    Recoton stereo phono pre-amplifier
    Would I be better off getting this (I don't know the price) rather than trying to upgrade my HK AVR120 receiver to a Denon AVR1803? The main reason I'm doing it is for being able to play records through the phono input (obviously my HK doesn't have one), and component switching (not a huge deal), and external audio inputs (good for dvd audio but not really needed I guess).
    Is there another cheaper method rather than upgrading? I'll have to spend about $300 (after selling the HK) to get the Denon. Is there a cheaper option that will sound just as good for my record player (dad's anyways, sounds pretty good when hooked up).
    Thanks,
    ELmO[​IMG]
     
  2. Saurav

    Saurav Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,174
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    For $300, you can get a whole range of phono stages that would be much better than the internal phono stage of the Denon receiver. Go to www.audiogon.com and search for the phono stages (preamplifiers) there and you'll see what I'm talking about. I don't know anything about the Recoton unit. Look for the NAD PP-1 (can be had for $140 new), Rotel (forget the model number), and many other used units.
     
  3. elMalloc

    elMalloc Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2001
    Messages:
    787
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Thanks.
    I looked up NAD PP-1 and it's about $85 only (on ebay). Rotel 970 is $200 new, on ebay it's $100.
    I'm glad I don't have to go to Denon...though the new receiver would have had analog audio external inputs (for DVD audio) and component switching (needed for gamecube/xbox, cuz now I gotta switch by hand on the HDTV but that's fine!).
    Thanks again, if anyone else has a phono pre amp that would help.
    Anyways, with these pre amps, I'd just hook up my record player to the pre amp, then the pre amp to any stereo input on my receiver?
    -ELmO[​IMG]
     
  4. Kevin McCurdy

    Kevin McCurdy Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2000
    Messages:
    183
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I bought a used Rotel 970 BX phono preamp a while ago and it's been working fine for me.

    Your right with your connections record player to phono preamp to stereo input on your receiver.
     
  5. BrentPollard

    BrentPollard Second Unit

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2001
    Messages:
    445
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Going with a phono stage now will also mean you will have one when you move to another receiver or pre/pro in the future. [​IMG]
     
  6. Seth_L

    Seth_L Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2002
    Messages:
    1,553
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Take this lack of a phono input as a sign that you shouldn't be listening to vinyl. Someone is looking out for you.

    Seth
     
  7. elMalloc

    elMalloc Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2001
    Messages:
    787
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Har, my dad has about 350 records that he wants to listen to still. I know on his old amplifier they sound very good on the infinity studio monitors.
    I will pick up a rotel pre amp, and possibly a cassette player, even though they sound like utter crap. Maybe I should get the cassette converted to CD - problem with that is trying to get it to sound as good as possible without disturbing the actual musicality.
    -ELmO[​IMG]
     
  8. Saurav

    Saurav Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,174
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  9. Chu Gai

    Chu Gai Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2001
    Messages:
    7,270
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Hearing ticks and pops brings back warm memories [​IMG]
     
  10. Saurav

    Saurav Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,174
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What ticks and pops? [​IMG]
    Ah, never mind... been down this road before with you, Chu [​IMG] I was just curious about where Seth was coming from, that's all. By now, you and I know each other's position on this pretty well, I think [​IMG]
     
  11. Jeff D.

    Jeff D. Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 1999
    Messages:
    521
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The NAD PP1 is a stellar little phono stage. It can compete easily with stages costing up to 2x as much. If you're looking to go the affordable route, choose the PP1 and if you must spend the money, use what you have left over to upgrade your cartridge.

    /Jeff
     
  12. Seth_L

    Seth_L Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2002
    Messages:
    1,553
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I've heard an early 80's rather expensive Sony that was all servo controlled and had remote capability, but I've not heard what you probably consider a modern playback system. However, I'm not too sure what's changed about draging a needle in a groove in the past 20 years. Probably just the pre-amps. They're probably just designed to try and get a flatter sound out of vinyl now.

    Seth
     
  13. Saurav

    Saurav Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,174
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Seth,

    Thanks.
     
  14. Jeff D.

    Jeff D. Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 1999
    Messages:
    521
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  15. mike_decock

    mike_decock Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    May 21, 2002
    Messages:
    621
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I used the Sumiko Phono Box before upgrading to a more expensive AES PH-1. I sounds good and the flexibility is really nice.
    -Mike...
     

Share This Page