PHE Press Release: Star Trek TOS: Season 3 (Blu-ray)

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1970's style act breaks? Whoever wrote the press release must have been unaware the Quinn Martin shows were already doing it in the '60's.

And a film collector actually approached CBS/Paramount without any fear of legal action?
 

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trekmovie.com has a new preview image from Where No Man Has Gone Before, the original Star Trek pilot that was never aired with the alternate opening. This is included in the Season 3 BD set. Plus trekmovie also shows the same disc contents breakdowns as listed in Ron's first post above.

I don't think this image is a revelation, since it's a screen cap. But it is exciting to see this set is coming in 2 weeks!

 

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There's a fair amount to not-like about season 3, but there's some great episodes in there too, IMO.

"Spectre of the Gun" has always been a favorite of mine. Loved that episode's style and story.

I've had this preordered for awhile now and am looking forward to completing my Star Trek TOS bluray collection!
 

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I found a review for the Third Season BD set on trekweb today. Not a site I go to too often. The review is not a very technical review like you're used to on the HTF. It's more of a general review for Trek fans and consumers. Here's the link to it:

http://trekweb.com/articles/2009/12/01/BluRay-Review-Star-Trek-The-Original-Series-Season-3.shtml

What is interesting is his description of the Where No Man Has Gone Before un-aired pilot that was recently found. I'll cut and paste his comments here:


Perhaps the most important extra on, and the centerpiece of, this set is the unaired alternate version of "Where No Man Has Gone Before", complete with lost footage and music, different main and end title credits, and a MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE-style act arrangement, and presented for the first time in an official capacity on Disc 6 with a text introduction about the pilot‘s history. As with the other episodes, this version of "Where No Man" is presented in full-frame shadow-box format and Dolby 2.0 sound, but the quality is quite clear. This is a find indeed! Thanks to a German film collector who acquired a 35mm print of the pilot, CBS/Paramount Home Entertainment oversaw the transfer of the print to HD video by Magic Picture Home Entertainment GmbH before it was transported overseas to the United States this past September for color correction and frame-by-frame dirt removal (there are some age-related scratches, however). I first read about this alternate version in Allan Asherman's "The STAR TREK Compendium", and for a long time this alternate cut of "Where No Man" was in the Smithsonian Institution. Twenty years ago I came across this pilot film on an underground VHS tape at a comics store, and the quality was pretty decent, but nothing like this - and this was years before the advent of eBay and YouTube! Now this lost gem has been given to us in an official capacity - and all I can say is thank you, CBS and Paramount! And an equally huge thank you to that German film collector, wherever you are!
What does he mean by "Full Frame Shadow Box?" His way of saying Pillar box? I'll have to see what he's talking about. Given the age of the film elements, sounds like a pretty good restoration, but not like the series film elements.

And then later, he laments about the missed opportunity it was for other rarities. He's gone on to repeat an oft said thing about The Cage by another reviewer at Trekweb, whose name sounds like he was once a member here, that there was a restored verison that was only out in 1988 or 89 on VHS and has never made it to DVD. I thought I knew all the versions, but I keep reading about this mysterious 3rd version.


STILL missing in action are the 1988-89 restored version of "The Cage" that was issued only on VHS (which was a pretty decent remaster until the 2001 restoration effort). In any event, hold onto those discs and the VHS in order to have all of the various releases (check out my article in the TrekWeb archives on the various versions of "The Cage"). Also still missing in action are the two direct-to-video documentaries, "William Shatner's STAR TREK Memories" and "Inside STAR TREK: The Real Story", which have never seen a DVD or Blu-ray release to begin with. Nor are the legendary blooper reels or vintage 1960's promos for the series (there's at least seven or eight of them out there that I know of). For that matter, there's vintage outtake footage from "The Cage" that was shown a number of years back on a documentary special about Jeffrey Hunter, along with equally vintage outtakes and series commercials that are on YouTube if you know where to look - that would have been nice to see in an official capacity. Finally, while having the original 1960's preview trailers are a nice touch, I would have liked to see the trailers to the recent remastered versions as well. And with a lot of extras out there, they could have seen fit to take advantage of the storage capabilities Blu-ray has and expanded this set to a seventh disc like its previous two releases this year.
The link to the full review is at the top of the post. If anyone has more info on this 3rd version of The Cage, I'd like to hear about it. I may or may not have that VHS of The Cage, the official Paramount one, not a bootleg. I'll have to look for it!

Post Script: Well, I'm surprised to say I found that I do own the VHS of The Cage. I shouldn't be so surprised after all! It looks like the exact same artwork on the laserdisc of The Cage, the All Color Version. I have that too. So I can't understand why the reviewer is saying there is another version. He says the version on the tape and LD is not on the DVD or BD, but I guess I'll have to do more study here to figure out the difference. I always thought the version on the LD and tape is the same on the DVD, no additional 2 or 3 seconds of footage that are claimed to be missing on the DVD and soon to be released BD.
 

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Is he talking about the Roddenberry bumpers, that explain why some of the footage is black and white? It was shot on the Trek movie sets as i recall.
 

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Originally Posted by Nelson Au

The link to the full review is at the top of the post. If anyone has more info on this 3rd version of The Cage, I'd like to hear about it. I may or may not have that VHS of The Cage, the official Paramount one, not a bootleg. I'll have to look for it!
Nelson, here's a link to the referenced story on TrekWeb about the different versions of "The Cage":
http://trekweb.com/stories.php?aid=491ad7dcb7e57
 

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The version of The Cage that was first released on tape and LD does have the Roddenberry bumpers where he explains this is a version with the Black and White and Color portions integrated.

Thanks Scott(Ensign Eddie). That was the trekweb article I had read a few years ago. I had forgotten the exact details for the differences. I'll re-read that more clearly and I may find time to play the LD all color version that he's talking about that has the rough edges still and audio slow downs to help bridge the footage and the original Alexander Courage musical cue during the fight that Pike has on Rigel with the Kaylar. I think this must be the 3rd version he's talking about that we ought to have on DVD and BD. I can see his point, it's got the original soundtrack and the original versions of the Keeper's voice. I thought I remembered having that version!

But I can understand Paramount's desire to put out a more polished and finished version on the DVD. Could it have had Roddenberry's stamp of approval? I guess not as he passed away before the DVD sets ever came out.

It's funny, I pulled out every version of The Cage I have. The VHS, the LD of the B&W/Color verison, the LD of the all color Collector Version(Same as the VHS), the 40th Volume set version, the box set from 2004 and the remastered box set. I'm not showing off, am I nuts? That's a lot of collecting! And soon to be 2009 BD set too!
 

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http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Original-Series-Season-3-Blu-ray-Review/7192/

The above review lists 3 versions of The Cage on the new set...

"The Cage," found on disc six, is available in three versions: a special extended cut with black and white footage intermixed with color elements, the full-color episode with original special effects, and the full-color version with newly enhanced visual effects.

I just finished Season 2 yesterday. I'm ready to get started on Season 3!!
 

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Originally Posted by Simon Massey

this being the last set of the original anyone have any idea of paramounts plans for Next Gen, DS9 and Voy on bluray?
Have these done enough to convince them to redo the effects to high def standard ?
I have my doubts about that. Its not just the effects that would have to be re-done. Every show would have to be rescanned and reedited from scratch. In addition the tribble episode of DS9 on the ST season 2 set that has supposedly been upscalled to HD doesn't look any better than my SD version on the original DS9 set.

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce

I have my doubts about that. Its not just the effects that would have to be re-done. Every show would have to be rescanned and reedited from scratch. In addition the tribble episode of DS9 on the ST season 2 set that has supposedly been upscalled to HD doesn't look any better than my SD version on the original DS9 set.
Probably because it's been just that--upscaled from the SD source, not recreated from the original elements.
 

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Tim, thanks for the link to the blu-ray.com review and the info on The Cage.

This is great! Both pilots remastered and in original effects and with CGI effects for The Cage. The Extended version is the one with the Roddenberry bumpers. The only thing missing, and I think of little value is Roddenberry's personal b&w version that I did see at a lecture he gave in the early 70's.

I had a look at the all color Special Collectors Edition laserdisc of The Cage. Wow, what a trip, I have not watched that laserdisc in about 8 years or so. You can see, as the article says, how rough it looks in terms of the reintegrated color footage. The color is not as well matched to the Menagerie color footage, and in some shots the color suddenly changes with the new footage. Nothing drastic, just not an exact color match. And the audio is not as clean in the reintegrated footage. Lots of hiss and warbles. And the Keeper's voice is the deeper voice in the later shots as they escape to the surface. In viewing the Remastered SD DVD of The Cage right afterwards, they really did a super job on getting the color balance correct to match all the inserted shots! And the contrast and brightness is so much better then the LD. The LD looks like it's so overly bright! The blu ray is going to look super!

The only thing that I didn't see in that blu-ray.com review, and I may have missed it, is what the Where No Man Has Gone Before pilot will be windowboxed or full screen or some other thing.
 

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Originally Posted by ATimson



Probably because it's been just that--upscaled from the SD source, not recreated from the original elements.
Yes thats the point. There was talk about a year ago that CBS had created some new upscale process that made the original 480i material look almost like 1080. I never bought it at the time, but if that is an example of their new process, it ain't making it!

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Very bad news............

Best Buy has decided to sell season 3 for $69.99 for the release week!!

Ten dollars more than season 2 was.

I'm not gonna buy it at that price. And believe me---I want to buy it.

Anybody know of a B & M retailer that will have a better price?

Thanks!
 

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Well Steve, my guess for the price going up is due to the inclusion of Where No Man Has Gone Before. It's actually $65.99 at Best Buy.

I just remembered I have a $10 coupon I could use. I guess it was a good thing to join the Best Buy rewards program!
 

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Yep I took the $52.99 no shipping I'm in no hurry


I imagine all that was done with WNMHGB was to graft the cleaned up alternate footage onto the existing hidef original footage to give yo a full episode.


I remember attending a convention in Spfld Mass at the civic center in the 70's where Roddenberry was speaking, and He brought both the original Full B&W version of the Cage and a Full color Alternate version of Where no man and screened both, they were supposedly Roddenberry's personal copies so he at least had a copy of Where no man.
 

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Well, I just paid for the privilege of owning today! Yes, the price is $69.99, not $65.99. Oh well, out the door was $76 with tax, ouch!

I'm really curious to see if WNMHGB is window boxed, or full standard 4:3 or what.

Dave, I saw Gene in one of his San Francisco Bay area visits in the 70's too, but only saw The Cage.
 

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Originally Posted by Nelson Au ">[/url]

Well, I just paid for the privilege of owning today! Yes, the price is $69.99, not $65.99. Oh well, out the door was $76 with tax, ouch!
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Something tells me that you love Trek enough that it'll be worth the extra money.
 

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Originally Posted by TravisR /forum/thread/294654/phe-press-release-star-trek-tos-season-3-blu-ray/30#post_3638580
Even season three? It takes a special fan to love it. ;)
 

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