Pharmacist blocks birth control refill; judge recommends reprimand

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  1. Drew Bethel

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    Without turning this into a pro life/pro choice argument. I think pharamacists have no right to deny ANY medicatio prescribed by a doctor. They should do their duties and dispense the drugs without imparting any moral judgement on the prescription needed. If this conflicts with their morals - then find another damn job!
     
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    did this actually happen, or is this a hypothetical scenario you came up with?

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  3. Kenneth

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    I also think the judge was right to reprimand the pharmacist. Religion, like any of the other protected classifications, only requires employers to make reasonable accomodation. The reasonable accomodation appears to be that the store was willing to transfer a customer to another location. When he failed to do this properly (by refusing to release the prescription) he violated both his professional oaths and his employer's requirements. I think if he is unwilling to admit he made a mistake he should lose his job also for violating his terms of employment.

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    He's the Michael Medved of Pharmacists. I wonder how many Viagra prescriptions he filled that day.
     
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    While I have no objection to the man's personal beliefs, he seriously needs to find a different job. It's like a vegetarian working behind the meat counter. He was totally out of line, and even moreso when he later refused to transfer the prescription to another pharmacy.

    Although I did find it a little amusing that he was creating a "health risk" for the woman because she could have gotten pregnant. So not only was he withholding contraception from her, he was also responsible for actively inserting somebody else's penis into her vagina?
     
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    The post with the full text has been deleted. Please provide a link.

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  7. Drew Bethel

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    Depending on which State you practice in, the law states that a pharmacist may refuse to fill a prescription at their discression. There are numerous examples of why refusing to fill a prescription is fine.

    In my State, the pharmacist does not have the right to refuse to transfer a prescription unless it is in direct violation of the law.

    If a prescription can't or won't be filled, the patient has the ability to go to another pharmacy. In this case, he actively prohibited this patient from receiving her medication. He should be punished.
     
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    IF the pharmacist informed the pharmacy owner that he/she would not fill X perscriptions, then it's the duty of the store to have someone else on staff to do it. That's fine.

    If they didn't tell the pharmacy when they were employed, or gave no notice to the store owner first, then they are under obligation to follow store policy.

    JMHO>
     
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    While I agree that in this case the pharmacist was certainly wrong, and should have AT LEAST sent her to another local pharmacy, I would not make a blanket statement like the one above. For instance, if I were prescribed a medication by a doctor who was not fully aware of my other current medications and the pharmacist noticed a potential negative interaction between the drugs, I would hope he'd refuse the give the medication instead of letting me be killed by medication. I realize that in this case the patients life was not on the line, I just wanted to point out why blanket statements like that are generally poor.
     
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    I think if a negative interaction were discovered, the pharmacist is supposed to contact the doctor for clarification and explanation, not to outright refuse to fill the prescription.
     
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    Well, I agree, but my main point was that the blanket statement was taking things too far. So to continue that point, I'll offer that most pharmacies these days are open 24/7. Most doctor's offices are not. I'd argue that if the pharmacist cannot contact the doctor, then he/she should refuse to fill the prescription at that time.

    Additionally, a pharmacist may have reason to believe a prescription drug is being abused by a patient (i.e. multiple refills of pain killers). Again, this should be checked with the doctor, but most doctors are busy doing other things for most of the day.
     
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    When calling a physicians office, it is very difficult to actually speak with a physician. Most of the time, you either have to leave a message or speak to the nurse. Either way, you have to wait for a call back from the physician.

    Like I mentioned earlier, there are many reasons why a pharmacist can/should refuse to fill a prescription.

    The role of a pharmacist is to insure that the medication is appropriate (right drug, right dose, no significant interactions, etc.) for the patient. Trust me, you don't want a pharmacist who just blindly dispenses the medication that the physician orders.

    In this particular case, the pharmacist's actions were inappropriate (specifically his refusal to transfer the prescription).
     
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    Those were nice posts. I hadn't thought about med interaction with others. I think that most people that try to pull that one off have more than one druggist, though.

    The other side of the coin is that some meds are taken for secondary reactions. I think there are anti-depressants out that speed healing of damaged nerves. Aren't some women taking BC pills just to control their flow?

    What if, in this case, not having them would have caused a severe reaction to the patient?

    I see now that the ultimate decision should be left up to the druggist, but there should be a way to get the denial in writing so that the patient has a fast way of getting other opinions that would be legal, so she could go somewhere else.

    Glenn
     
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    The pharmacist in question, Mr. Noesen, should seek another profession. Pharmacists should not be in the business of imposing extreme personal religious beliefs on customers.
     
  16. Seth--L

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    Think that's bad? My health care provider requires me to get all my prescription drugs via mail order. They consistently under fill my prescriptions, and it takes a call directly from my doctor to them to get the full dosage. It's a major pain in the ass.
     

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