Phantom Menace-Film, Video or both?

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  1. Daniel_M

    Daniel_M Stunt Coordinator

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    I'd heard a while back that George

    Lucas was going to shoot Phantom Menace

    using Sony's High definition Video Cameras.

    I watched the movie the other night and

    it looked like it was shot on film.

    And when I saw the documentary on disc

    two I saw that they were using Arriflex

    film cameras to shoot some scenes.

    Does anybody know if Lucas used the

    Sony High Def video cameras to shoot

    any of the live action stuff or just the EFX

    scenes?

    Dan
     
  2. Richard Travale

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    If I recall correctly, Lucas used the digital cameras for only a few scenes. In particular was the scene with Anikan in front of his house at night when Qui-Gon was testing his midichlorian(sp?) levels. If I'm wrong on this anybody, please feel free to correct me.
     
  3. Tim Maynard

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    I think you are right, Rich.
    From what I've read, I think there was only the one scene done with HI-Def Video, and it was indeed the Midi-chlorian scene at night outside the slave quarters. I think I remember them being a little disappointed with the black level.
     
  4. Leo Kerr

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    EP II is/was shot largely in HD video using the Sony cameras.
    I seem to recall hearing that two shots in TPM were shot in video - the MIDI-clorians (is that anything like General MIDI?) and one of the pick-up second unit shots in the submarine.
    Leo Kerr
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  5. Joshua Clinard

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    Yea, it is Episode II that is shot with digital camera's. Not Phantom Menace.
     
  6. Sean Patrick

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    hmm.. interesting. I noticed that the midichlorians scene (which should have been cut out anyway!) looked a lot muddier than the rest of the transfer.

    Seriously though, after watching the deleted scenes, any number of them should have been left in, instead of the midichlorians gibberish.
     
  7. Daniel_M

    Daniel_M Stunt Coordinator

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    Joshua,

    This may be a dumb question, but I'm not

    a huge Star Wars fan (Star Trek, yes)....

    I take it episode two has not come out yet?

    Dan
     
  8. Sean Patrick

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    While Episode 2 isn't out yet, you CAN find it at an unnamed LARGE chain rental store.
    [​IMG]
     
  9. Jon D

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    The Midichlorian scene? That makes sense. I agree that it looked plugged up as compared to the rest of the film. Maybe digital cameras just don't handle night scenes very well. I hope Episode II doesn't look like that one scene. If it does there will ve some very angry mobs out there.
     
  10. Robert Spalding

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    Sean,

    care to tell us how you could get Episode 2 if it's not even finished?
     
  11. Bill Buklis

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    Yeah, the only reason for that stupid midichlorians scene was so QuiGon would have an excuse to believe Anakin was the special one mentioned by the prophecy. Of course as any Star Wars fan can easily guess, he's not. But, there could've been a 1,000 ways to suggest Anakin's unique Jedi abilities rather than to stoop to an immaculate conception motif.

    Anyway, I hadn't noticed the difference from film in that scene. I will have to check it out again. Although admittedly it was really dark and I wasn't paying that close of attention.
     
  12. Daniel_M

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    Episode II shot totally on video?

    Well this I gotta see.

    I've seen the Sony High def camera and the

    picture it puts out and video-wise it's truly

    spectacular. BUT, no way it looks as good as

    35mm film. Video just doesn't have the tonal range

    of film. It's getting close but not yet.

    I have a sneaking suspision Lucas will do

    a lot of tweaking in post production to

    give the video a more "filmic" look. Also,

    it will be transfered to film before being

    shipped to theaters except perhaps, for the

    handful of venues that have the new high grade

    video projectors.

    The real test will be when Episode II comes out

    on DVD. They will probably make the transfer directly

    from the digital post production realm (Avid?) and

    we will get to see what Lucas' camera saw(plus a little

    post production tweaking) with no degradation and

    no generation loss.

    Anybody know of any other "films"

    shot on video? Somebody mentioned "Dancer in the Dark"

    I'd be interested in hearing your opinions on the

    picture quality.

    Dan
     
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    Dancer in the Dark and many other recent low budget movies are shot on DV. These new digital cameras that they used for Episode II are completely different. To this day only 3 or 4 films have used these new digital cameras. One in France (Vidocq) and the others in US.
     
  17. cody meche

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    i read an article a while back that stated lucas used the sony cam as a test to see if he would like how it worked out and how the seens shot came out as well, he did say he was partial to film because of the years he has been directing and his comfortability with it. he said he was so impressed with the way the scenes in ep.1 came out the ep.ii was totally gong to be shot using the sony cam
     
  18. Claes Ljunghorn

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    "One in France (Vidocq) and the others in US."

    And a couple in Sweden also. It's almost popular here...
     
  19. Jason Seaver

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    Session 9 looked pretty good, using the same digital 24fps camera technology as Episode II.
     
  20. Sean Patrick

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    well if the footage from the new theatrical trailer shown with Harry Potter is any indication, the film/video picture quality looks great. The only minor difference I *might* have seen was the integration of background effects and the foreground in darker shots didn't look quite as smooth as it could, but that's probably due to unfinished/unpolished effects.
     

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