Peter Gabriel's Secret World Live is widescreen

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  1. Paul McElligott

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    (Sorry, I know there was another topic on this release, but search isn't working right now).

    According to the 'Bits, Peter Gabriel's Secret World Live is widescreen.

    My question is: was the original VHS/Laserdisc a P&S version or will this be a crop of the original 4:3 image?

    Inquiring minds want to know.
     
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    I would not know but the cover is just mind blowing indeed

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    I don't recall the 4:3 laserdisc ever having a claustrophic feeling, as most cropped discs do.

    If the director did not originally compose this for widescreen, and this release has been modified to pander to the widescreen crowd, I'll be just as sickened as when Disney pans-and-scans a classic to please the 4:3 crowd.
     
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    Hmm. The concert was shot in 1993 which would put it before 16x9 delivery requirements were manadory for submission to major European broadcasters. But, it was directed by François Girard (who also directed THE RED VIOLIN and 32 SHORT FILMS ABOUT GLENN GOULD among others).

    It is possible that he composed it for a 1.66 theatrical release in Europe and possibly the United States. After all, there was a wave of theatrically released concert films in the mid- and late-eighties. The laserdisc transfer is probably a full aperture transfer and I'd agree that I remember it as being well balanced.

    Probably the only way we'd know for sure is if someone asked Mr. Girard himself.

    -greg
     
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    I'm looking forward to seeing this for the first time. I saw Peter Gabriel live on his recent "Growing Up" tour and it was a great show. I hope he plans to release a DVD of that one as well.
     
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    If this is coming out on Feb 11, as the bit's says. When will the reviews start coming in?
     
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    Certainly not the most reliable source, but Best Buy's website says this is now slated for March 4.
     
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    I also remember the LD looking great at 4:3, however, the only LD of Girard's 32 Short Films About Glenn Gould is also framed 4:3 and also looks fine, even though I know that it definitely had a theatrical run. So you never know.

    I'm very curious as to how this will look in widescreen!
     
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    Does anyone have any further details? From all I can tell this is coming out next week and I cannot find any info about the format. The cover clearly says widescreen, but is it Anamorphic? Film based or video? Some may reconsider if the video is poor.
     
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    Anybody seen this disc yet? It's due next Tuesday and I can't wait to check it out. Have any reviewers received an advance copy?
     
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    I echo Mr. Peterson's sentiments. Has anyone seen this thing yet? How is it? Is the widescreen a true widescreen image or a cropped one?
     
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    Looks matted.

    Looks HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Over compressed, grainy, smoky, soft, blocky etc etc etc.

    Not proud to own it.

    Sound is so-so.

    What was it shot with?
     
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    When you say it "looks matted" can you give us some more information? Do you have the original LD or VHS to compare? What is the aspect ratio?
     
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    based on comments that if it is originally 1.33, looking at all the shots, then it could be matted for 1.85.

    regardless, the print/transfer is just unacceptable for this day and age of DVDs.

    they should have dropped an audio track or some extras.
     
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    If it was shot on video, it is certainly going to look like hell zoomed/cropped to fill an anamorphic video frame.

    Regardless, somebody do an LD/DVD comparison quick (for composition and quality), before I cave and buy this disc!
     
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    Say it isn't so! I bought this today, but I think I'll wait to hear from those who have seen it before I open it. I was torn between buying this and the Superbit Das Boot. If all the reports come back negative I might have to go back and get it instead.
     
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    I rented the laserdisc years ago and really loved it. I am shocked it took this long to put it out on DVD and I have been looking forward to its release forever. I'm hoping more people who have seen the DVD can shed some light on this discussion. If it is at least the quality of the laserdisc I'll be happy.
     
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    Phil,

    I watch 25 DVDs every week.
    This one sticks out like a sore thumb, that's all.

    nothing more, nothing less.

    I like Peter Gabriel.

    Remix, remastered amounts to marketing in my book.

    I'd rather watch paint dry.

    and that's not speculation.

    speculation would have been saying things like, "This DVD sucks!", so to speak.

    I wouldn't bother otherwise.
     

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