Paramount: ST:TNG S3 has an error

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  1. Jeff Kleist

    Jeff Kleist Executive Producer

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    The stop for Chapter 2 on the first episode is several minutes past the end of the starting credits.
     
  2. David Lambert

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    That's not the only one, Jeff! Several episodes on all three already-released box sets have the same chapter 2 starting point issue.

    It is definately better if, on ANY TV-show-on-DVD, if the 2nd chapter starting point is immediately after the opening credits are complete. That ought to be a standard, along with a "Play All" feature.
     
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    I wonder why it's like that. I didn't think I encounterred it in Season 1, but I didn't always pass the credits either.

    I hope there is time to change this for any subsequent season.
     
  4. Daniel Kikin

    Daniel Kikin Screenwriter

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    Is there a list anywhere that contains all the episodes with this problem?

    Right now I'm up to the tenth episodes of Season One and it would be good to know which episodes I should fast forward through the credits instead of skipping to the next chapter.
     
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    Just for reference, quite a few episodes from Star Trek: TOS have this problem as well.

    -greg
     
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    Looks like another reason to buy R2 [​IMG]
     
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    In all fairness, it may not be an error, it just might be a really bad decision. I've seen some weird choices for chapter stops on lots of dvds. There's one that chapter 1 starts with the fbi logo, etc., and chapter 2 is already into the meat of the film. [​IMG]
     
  8. Jeff Kleist

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    The thing is that the majority of the episodes have Chapter 2 right after the credits, which tells me there's some timecode logging issues that weren't checked properly in QC
    Set is great, this is just annoying [​IMG]
     
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    I've noticed this issue as well, and I have a theory. It seems as though this happens when the opening scene is fairly short...say, less than 3 minutes. The title sequence lasts about a minute and a half. That would bring the duration of the first chapter under 5 minutes. I think it's when this happens that the next scene begins in chapter one.

    Maybe someone can check this out if he/she has the time.

    --Dan
     
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    I've also noticed that when this happens chapter 2 usually starts after a "commercial break" or fade to black... perhaps the software or people are missing something?

    Either way, this is VERY annoying.. I carefully look for the episode title, and if I don't see it almost immediatly, I start to rewind.

    Chris.
     
  11. Gord Lacey

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    I've bitched about this in all my reviews of TNG seasons.

    Going back over my notes, here are the offending episodes.

    Season 1:
    -Haven
    -The Big goodbye
    -When the Bough Breaks
    -Skin of Evil

    Season 2:
    -Manhunt

    Season 3:
    -Evolution
    -Who Watches the Watchers
    -The Bonding
    -The Vengeance Factor
    -Tin Man

    It doesn't take very long to check. I suggest making a little checklist for the QC guy and adding "Chapters" on there.

    Gord
     

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