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Paramount kicks "Dune" Remake into High Gear

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  1. mattCR

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    http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/01/04/dune-remake/


    Well, that's kind of a surprise. I admit, I prefer the SciFi 2000 miniseries. but on DVD, it's just over 6 hours long.. I love the book, and series, and kept rooting for SciFi to make "God Emporer" but I can't figure out how in any method you translate this political/spy thriller/scifi/messianic film into much more then the 1984 film... that is if you condense to 2 hours..

    Will be interesting.
     
  2. Claire Panke

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    EEP!

    I'm OK with this as long as he doesn't bring Luc Besson aboard. I'm hoping most of what I didn't like about Taken was Besson and what I did like was Morel. I hope they don't schlock up the script.

    I'd guess this could be a movie well over 2 hours screentime by the time it's released. Maybe not 3 hours, but longer than Lynch's attempt.

    Actaully, I prefer the Lynch movie, flaws 'n all, to the miniseries. I doubt we'll get anything so brilliant and visionary this time around, but it'll probably be a lot more coherent and accessible. Certainly digital FX make it a much more reasonable proposition financially than back in the day. If it's successful, I can see other books of the series following.
     
  3. Chuck Anstey

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    I think the SciFi miniseries captured the book very well and even with 6 hours a few things were cut. I don't see how they really could improve upon the mini-series unless they are going to make this a 2-part movie. The main issue people seemed to have with the miniseries was the very apparent "we're on a stage" outdoor shots and that could be improved by the movie but not if it is cut down to 3 hours. The Lynch version changed too many things and made no sense if you hadn't read the book.

    I would think instead of re-re-making Dune, they would go to the prequel House of [family] series. Those are pretty basic plot lines about politics and power that I think more people could relate to. Plenty of action/adventure in each to make a good trilogy that lead into Dune.
     
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    I'll only see this if it's directed by Alan Smithee
     
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    I'll just add that I still hold out hope for Lynch to offer an extended/special/director's cut of his Dune. At this point I know it's a huge longshot, but stranger things have happened I guess.
     
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    I don't think Lynch got enough of what he wanted onto celluloid for us to ever see a true "director's cut". You can't make what isn't there. Well never see what he ultimately intended.

    The extended edition is just that, extended, not a directors choice. But I'd still rather watch Lynch's flawed Dune than the miniseries (horrendous Toto soundtrack and all), which though competently executed lacks poetry of any sort..
     
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    True enough and definitely a long shot of him ever touching this movie again. But I'll still have my fingers crossed.
     
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    (shrugs shoulders) I rather liked the TOTO score...better than you would expect coming from the guys who brought you Rosanna, Brian Eno's little piece was good as well.
     
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    I liked the Toto score as well.

    As flawed as it is, I prefer the Lynch film to the miniseries. Lynch's film was messy but it somehow captured more of the vibe I felt while reading the novel while the miniseries was more faithful but the tone and casting felt way off to me.
     
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    I am surprised at how many prefer the movie to the miniseries. I saw the movie first and the "killing word" and heart plugs were kind of cool, that is until I read the book about a year before the miniseries came out. The book is more about politics, leadership, giant conspiracy theories, and someone gaining the power of true prophecy. Those were done very well in the miniseries but it lacked the spectacle of the book. I watched the movie again after the miniseries and I had a hard time following it. The movie was all spectacle and very little substance. The movie also had core changes like the "killing word", heart plugs, and Paul becoming a god rather than having the gift of prophecy. I don't think these changes were in the spirit of the book but are interesting in their own alternate universe Dune.
     
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    I admit, I had trouble with the Lynch movie right off the bat because of major book changes... some you mention, others (Weirding modules?) and the like just seemed.. goofball. Part of what I loved about the miniseries was how in tune it was with the books. I really enjoyed the miniseries, a lot.
     
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    Pretty ballsy to make Dune in the current cultural context in which it will exist. Son of privilege joins up with desert-dwelling terrorists and brings down an empire -- sound familiar?
     
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    While Dune was modeled after the Middle East by Frank Herbert, it is easy enough to make it look like local natives being abused by a giant corporation owned by one family. A new friendly corporate family takes over and wants to treat the natives properly but are overthrown by the evil corporate family. The surviving member wants revenge and seek independence for the planet from the universal multinational corporation. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Now whether someone see parallels between House Harkonnen and any current Earth government is their business. Audiences root for "terrorists" all the time as long as they are portrayed as the good guys against the bad guys. Robin Hood, the V series, and Total Recall are just a few examples.
     
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    And V for Vendetta. But the desert vistas aren't a problem for ...well ok, Total Recall had deserts too. Fair enough.
     
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    I kind of wish that instead of Dune, they'd gone for David Gerrold's War Against the Ch'torr ("A Matter For Men") series. Giant caterpillars instead of giant worms. Giant red, man-eating -- car-eating, pretty much anything that fits in their mouths eating -- caterpillars. (It is actually quite scary, as an alien ecosystem invades earth, and despite military efforts that kill some of the more obvious creatures, it is ultimately an attack that the military cannot win.)
     

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