Paradigm up grade> Titian to Monitor 3 is it worth it?

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  1. Steve_Wingman

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    I have Titans for rear surounds now and Mon 9's as mains. Is it worth the upgrade to the Monitor 3's (same 8" driver)for the rears? I use the system for 50/50 music & theater. Or should I hold out and save for a future SVS 16-46 PCi?
    Thanks much,
    Steve
     
  2. Rick Lyon

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    You rarely actually hear the surrounds. I have the titans for mains and will upgrade to monitor 7s soon. I'm using the ADP -170s for surrounds and they are on what, maybe 10% of a typical movie? You'd really only get good use from them with DVD-A or multichannel SACD. Even then, it's mostly background type instruments. I think your Titans are more then adequate.
     
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    I've been using Titans as surrounds for years, though I am about to sell them soon to replace them with surrounds that match my mains (GR Research). IMO, there is no real benefit to having Minis or M3s as surrounds.
     
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    I highly disagree with your 10% estimate Rick. I have mini monitors for surrounds, and in movies I hear movie audio coming through them more like 80-90% of the time. Background music especially.
     
  5. Rick Lyon

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    Well, that background music isn't much more then 10% of the total soundtrack being delivered. I don't mean they come on 10%, I meant what comes out is very minimal to the center and fronts.
     
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    I agree with Rick that the surrounds are not very significant, though it varies from disc to disc. I would say surrounds get more information than ~10%, but the point being that this upgrade would not be entirely worth it. If it were for critical multichannel SACD/DVD-A, then I might say there's a better application, but for movies, that $$ will be better spent on an SVS [​IMG]
     
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    I use monitor3s for surrounds and I think they work well. When set to large they provide lots of bass for the surround effects.
     
  8. Steve_Wingman

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    Thanks for the replies! I only notice the change in tweeters while listening to DVDA or CD in Prologic-which is slight (the Titan is not as crisp as the Monitors). In movies it's not critical at all. I think the SVS upgrade is in the near future. I'm leaning to the 16-46PCi, is this overkill for my HT that I'll build this fall which will be 11.5'W X 21'L X 7.5'H closed room? Oh yeah, did I mention I'm in Canada and going to get killed on shipping and exchange and duty and have to register it as an dangerous weapon and ......

    cheers!
    Steve
     
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    An cheaper alternative to SVS in Canada are the offerings from www.creativesound.ca . I was also considering SVS or Paradigm subs but you can get more value building your own. The SHiva kit is about $600-700 with and amp and it probably pretty even with the 20-39pci.
     
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    I had Minis up front and Titans in the rear. I then moved the Minis to the rear when I got 20s for the front. I must say that the Minis do sound better. The rear is fuller and richer. Part of that may be because I went to a 60hz crossover. Which may be another thought for you. The 9's would definatly handle a lower crossover. Even though I know I have a small hole because of the roll-off, it is worth (I can't really even tell, especially with the surrounds) it to get the lower crossover for the fronts
     

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