I have been listening to a LOT of speakers lately and I believe that so far the Paradigm reference line along with the Dynaudio Audience line have so far the best sound of everything I've been listening to. I had origionally thought I'd go cheaper with speakers but then figured I'd just upgrade piece by piece and thus get what I really wanted. At the Paradigm shops I've been to so far, General Audio and Sounds of Music, I've found SoM to have a huge attitude problem especially the guy that was with me. They also expect me to buy the Transparent speaker cable #200. (I can't remember the model line) for $270. This isn't going to happen. I'll be getting some basic wire, or more likely, keeping my current stuff. He also claimed that the 40's were a 'redundant' speaker. - they didn't stock it. I wonder why... The guy at General was a whole lot better, was using some relatively cheap wire with the 40's, and gave a great demo in which the 40's were clearly better The price he quoted me was still basically 10% off. Both places used a locally made wood stands that were sand filled. I couldn't remember the brand - Skylark I think? - and no it's not a Buick! what salesmen have you guys had the best luck getting discounts on Paradigm stuff? and what were your experiences with them? --- As far as the Dynaudio's go, they sounded great, their littlest speaker, the 42, was priced about the same as the Paradigm 40's. But he said they could not discount because they were an import speaker. Anyone dealt with A&B downtown store with Dynaudios?