Paradigm and Yamaha - can it work?

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  1. DaveWales

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    I have a Yamaha RXV 596 receiver and wanted to upgrade my speakers. I have old Boston A-70's as mains,Titans as surrounds and a D-box 301 as a sub.

    I heard the Paradigm Studio CC at a local dealer, and thought it was excellent, so I decided to buy one with the plan of upgrading my mains to Studio 20s in the future.

    Here is my dilema:

    1) I find that the Paradigm CC and the RXV - 596 are very bright together. In short, I don't see $600 (Cdn)worth of improvement in the sound. In fact with normal TV viewing the phantom center is often superior. I consider the performance when watching regular TV important as I probably spend the bulk of time doing this. In my case music is least important.

    2) If I traded in the CC I could get 2 studio 20's for only $60 more and then could buy a single Studio 20 for a center. The total savings here would be about $300. Problem is will it still sound too bright?

    I have 15 day return policy so I have to decide soon which way to go.

    Has anybody got a Yamaha/Paradigm system that isn't too bright?
     
  2. Martin Rendall

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    It can work (does for me RXV-1000, 100's and CC) depending on the model of the receiver. Some yammie models are brighter than others. If it isn't working for you now, you may want to consider trying a different speaker brand.

    Best of luck,

    Martin.
     
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    My Paradigm dealer often lets me demo speakers I'm interested in at home for a day (with a credit card # to back it up). Perhaps yours will...this would be the best way to find out.
     
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    I was thinking of pairing a Yammie 630 with my mini monitors, and a couple of people recommended against it b/c both tend to be on the bright side. So now I'm looking into getting a Denon 2802, when I get some money of course![​IMG]
     
  5. DaveWales

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    I am still experimenting I and am going to go to the dealer to see if I can demo the studio 20's at home. I think that that will give me a better idea of whether the upgrade is worth it.

    I also have an old NAD receiver at home, I think I will hook up the Studio CC to it and test out the sound.

    I really want to get the front 3 speakers matched, because I don't find that the current situation (2 Boston and a Paradigm) is giving me anywhere close to the sound I expect.

    Also the Bostons are 6 ohms, would this have any affect on there sound ouput if not calibrated properly?

    Thanks

    Davw
     
  6. Lou Sytsma

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    Well I'm running a Yammy 2095 with Paradigm Reference 20s, Reference CC, Minimonitors, & Titans.

    Works fine for me - doesn't sound too bright at all. Unless one equates clear with bright - then guilty as charged.
     
  7. DaveWales

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    Lou, if you had your choice, would you switch the CC for another Studio 20?

    I think thats the route I am going to take.
     
  8. Lou Sytsma

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    Dave - I'm quite happy with my setup. I don't find the CC brighter than my 20's.

    Were do you have the CC? On top of your TV/console or on the floor? My CC is on the floor.

    I find it to be very clear and accurate - dialogue sounds very natural with it - though you can tell if something was touched up in the studio later.

    That's it's only shortcoming - it's too accurate. The limitations of the source are quickly exposed by the CC.
     
  9. DaveWales

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    Lou - It is on top of the TV and my preference is that it stays there although I will try it on the bottom.

    I have tried it with better sources and with the sub hooked up the sound is much better (to my tin ear anyway).

    I still think I will go with the 3 20's at the front, as it seems that I will not lose anything sound wise and will save about $300 Cdn over a CC + two 20's.

    I do think that the CC is an excellent speaker and was very impressed when I heard it in the store, I think that the rest of my system may not do it justice.

    Dave
     
  10. Lou Sytsma

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    OK Dave. Try it on the floor and let me know what you think. Worth a try anyhow. Going with 3 speakers across the front is always a good idea.
     
  11. DaveWales

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    Lou, I tried it on the floor, if I had to judge, I would say it was the same or slightly better, although honestly I can't say it was much different.

    Thanks for your input, I think the speaker is getting better as it is being broken in and I do like it more now. I still think that the 3 studio 20's is my best route, more for $ reasons than anything else
     
  12. Lou Sytsma

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    Dave - didn't pick up on the fact that it was brand new. It will sound better as it breaks in - running something on it for ~24 hours continuously will speed up that process.
    Of course financial considerations always override anything else.[​IMG]
     

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