Panny RP91 vs Toshiba SD5700

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  1. Thomas_Berg

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    any opinions? i want DVD-A plus progressive scan, and i am not considering JVC. i know the Tosh has HDCD decoding above the '91, but how else are these players different? what about the chroma bug, etc? (the Tosh is
     
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    i thought the difference between the new Toshiba SD4700 and '5700 is the '5700 offered HDCD decoding. buy.com says the '4700 decoded HDCDs too...misprint?
    also i am having trouble trying to find a discount online e-tailer that will sell the '5700 when it arrives. most everyone has the '4700 up, but no word on the higher model.
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    Onecall.com lists the 5700 as being "retail sale only," which (I believe) means that Toshiba only wants it sold through direct outlets (i.e., retail stores). I beleive that this is an indication of a manufacturer wanting to lend a "high-end" aura to an item; selling it through discount retailers would somehow tarnish this image. Go figure.
    My understanding is that the 4700 does NOT decode HDCD. Nevertheless, I'm planning on getting a 4700 whenever it finally ships. During a 10/22 telephone conversation, Onecall said that they're expecting the unit to arrive "in about three weeks." But this unit has been delayed for so long now, it's anyone's guess...
    The price sure is terrific though, so I'm willing to continue my wait.
     
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    Does anyone know what MPEG decoder and de-interlacer chip the SD4700 will use? Will it be the new Zoran chip?
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    I am kinda of tworn with Toshiba DVD players. They have great picture and sound. But they also have many problems with layer changes.
     
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    I get the impression from Toshiba's specs that HDCD processing only affects analog output. Anything it might do for digital output wouldn't be compatible with any receiver, would it?
     
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    nope paul- i dont think so, since the digital out bypasses the Burr-Brown DACs in the Tosh.
     
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    Thomas, thanks - just to be clear then - if I'm using digital connects, there's no point in getting the 5700 (w/ HDCD) over the 4700 I don't think, is that right?
     
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    i think you're correct. by using digital, you're not decoding using the Tosh's DACs, youre using the receiver's DACs. i dont think it'll make any difference then. however, i suggest using the DVD player's DACs for CDs anyways. i found that my Onkyo isn't as good at decoding than my Marantz CD-changer or my new Sony SCD-CE775. analog, CD-wise, is the way to go (so long as you have a decent player) IMO.
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    Does the Tosh 5700 have a scaling feature like the Panny RP91?
     
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    well i still havent gotten a straight answer to the question: is the Panny RP91 significantly better than the Toshiba SD5700? i plan on buying the '5700 if there is no big difference between the two. one more question: is there gonna be a new Panasonic model anytime soon?
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    There is a new Pan,the RN-60. It's not progressive, but I don't care. Otherwise it appears similiar to the 91, but I'd like to hear more about that--especially CD performance.
    The SD-5700 only has DD decoder, dts is passed through. Not a problem for folks with ouboard decoders, but an issue to me.
     
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    I havent tested the Toshiba 5700, but id be surprised if the picture quality is equal to the Panasonic from my previous experience with Toshiba.
    The only player I think that bests the Panasonic RP-91 is the Philips Q50 (excluding the $2,000 and up players) and that has another set of issues most notably random freezing.
    Im still in the process of the Sony NS900V and that is good so far, but the price is closer to $1,000.
    On a side note, I would never do business with Wholesale Connection. They sold me a tv and I went through 8 months of hassle with them trying to get a credit. They never contacted me until I won the dispute with my credit card company. Buyer beware when it comes to this company. My negavtive comment surprisngly never made it on the review site either. How ironic??
    Andy
     
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    can any RP91 owners tell me if it plays mp3-encoded CD-R/RW's and does it do CD-Text?
    i'm just about sold on it, minus the color. [​IMG]
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    Yes and Yes (90% sure about CD Text). Great player.
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    well i called etronics.com up and asked a few things about the RP91. i think i'm sold! then i just happened to ask if they were an authorized dealer. the guy said they WERE (i was shocked!!), so i immediately called up J&R, who said they would price match! hrmmm... champagne to stand out or black to match the other components...
    i'm so excited! [​IMG] i think i'll order tomorrow when my bank clears my credit card balance from my last HT upgrade... [​IMG]
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    I was looking at picking up one of the Toshiba players as well, but a recent price reduction on the RP91 has brought them more into my price range. I've seen the RP91 on the Web as low as $419. That's a pretty good price.
     
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    oh forgot to mention the pricematch with J&R was $419!! [​IMG]
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