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DanG

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quote: Originally posted by: Jasen Kent
Can it pass a 24/96k signal from its digital output without any compression?
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If it is a DVD-A disc, no. The current DVD-A format restricts digital transmission to 16b/48kHz.
DTS has announced it there will be 24b/96kHz DVD-V's available soon, but they require a new type of decoder, which current DVD players don't have. Also there are some Chesky Super Audio discs(not DVD-A) that are 2ch 24b/96kHz and a few DVD players can output this as digital. I'm not sure about the 91.
So as it stands now the only easy way to enjoy the sound of 24b/96kHz is a DVD-A played in analogue mode.
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Jeff Leigh

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My understanding is that it isn't the DVD-A standard, but the copy protection on the discs that restricts the digital output to 48kHz. Non-protected discs should play just fine.
Granted I don't actually own any DVD-A discs, so I have no way to verify this.
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DanG

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Well I guess it's a matter of semantics. The MPAA wil not permit members to allow high quality material to be transmitted digitally. Yes the Panasonic will pass digitally all frequencies up to 176kHz (not copy protected). Above 176 it will downmix to 48kHz.
My "entire" library for DVD-A consists of three discs and all are copy protected. I may have to look at purchasing a Chesky disc just to hear what digital 96kHz sounds like.
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Philip Hamm

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I may have to look at purchasing a Chesky disc just to hear what digital 96kHz sounds like.
Have you heard 96/24 DVD-A? Then you've heard the same sound quality that is DVD-Video with a 96/24 PCM audio track. I have three of the "Classic Recordings" DVD-V 96/24 discs and they sound stunning.
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Ron Reda

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Here's a dumb newbie question for y'all...
Will the RP91 work well with a Denon 3802?
 

Ron Reda

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Under "redundant" in the dictionary it says, "see 'redundant'" (Robin Williams).
Bad newbie, bad newbie...like a moron, I posted my question first THEN printed out the entire thread and read it. Apparently, plenty of people asked about using the RP91 with the Denon 3802. My bad...
 

DanG

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My entire library of DVD-A consists of ELP:Brain Salad Surgery, Blue Man Group and The Coors. I have a ways to go. I am currently trying to find DVD-A of Vivaldi, Mozart, Beethoven, Handel. Any suggestions.
I suppose if I wander over to the Chesky website they will have more info on the content of the three "Classics Recordings.
Thanks,
Dan
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Ranga

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Does the RP-91 have digital inputs for hooking up to Satellite receiver/CDP?
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DanG

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FAQ PART II
REMOTE CONTROL CODES:
In this section are two discrete power codes and two codes not available on the 91's remote. The codes are the POWER ON and POWER OFF codes along with the CD-REMASTER and DIGITAL PICTURE MODE. The codes are numeric key codes for the CINEMA 7 controller and the IR hex codes for the RC5000/PRONTO controllers.
CINEMA 7:
POWER ON -022
POWER OFF -026
CD-REMASTER -081
DIGITAL PICTURE MODE -173
RC5000:
  • POWER ON
    0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0041 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ab6
  • POWER OFF
    0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0041 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ab6
  • CD-REMASTER
    0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0041 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0ab6
  • DIGITAL PICTURE MODE
    0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0041 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0ab6
Thanks to jcorkery for the help.
PANASONIC RESPONSES:
My question concerning pink tint bug re-initialization of DVD's:
  • quote:
    "The re-initialize feature is considered to be a "soft" boot to the player.
    By doing this you will not clear all of your user settings for each disc you
    have set up. This will only reset the user controlled settings for the DVD
    player itself. If you want to clear the user settings for your individual
    DVD discs, this would have to be done one at a time. We have tried several
    combinations of reinitializing in order to come up with this conclusion. The
    reason for this is that once you customize a particular DVD the machine
    associates these settings with the table of contents on the DVD disc. Every
    time the disc is inserted into the RP91, the machine reads the table of
    contents and adjusts the user settings accordingly. The only way to rid the
    disc of these settings is to do the reinitialize with the disc inside of the
    player."
    [/quote]
>When you are in the SPEAKER SETTING menu and hit the RETURN
> button on the remote instead of EXIT this causes the DVD in the player,
>that you had created a User mode setting for, to take on a pink tint on Eject
>or machine shutdown. Can this bug be fixed with a software upgrade?
  • quote:
    "[IMS...CustomerCare] This situation can be corrected by a firmware
    upgrade at our Factory Servicentre in Mississauga. The address and phone
    number are shown below. If you plan on shipping the unit to us please
    contact them prior to sending the unit. They will issue you a Service Return
    number which will aid in the tracking of your DVD player."
    [/quote]
> 2. Time Remaining was incorporated for DVD-A and CD's but left out for
> DVD-Video. Was this an oversight or is there some other reasoning behind
> this.
  • quote:
    "[IMS...CustomerCare] DVD format uses MPEG2 compression technology, which
    allows a movie studio to put a full-length movie, as well as bonus/special
    features on to a single 5" disc. What makes MPEG2 so desirable is "VBT" or
    Variable Bit-rate Technology. This technology samples and encodes video
    information at different rates. For example, if you are watching a movie and
    in some scenes there isn't a lot of movement - say if it was just the image
    of a person standing and talking - the DVD will not process the background
    information at the same rate as the image of the person; because the
    background is unchanging. So the bit rate would be lower in that portion of
    the movie as opposed to when you have a scene with lots of action or
    movement. This method of compression greatly reduces the amount of data
    (file size) while still enjoying high quality video and audio that DVD
    players provide.
    With other audio formats such as CD, the player can easily look at the file
    size divided by the fixed sampling frequency it can easily determine the
    total time or time remaining. With DVD movies, the player can look at the
    file size but it is not possible for the file size to be divided by
    "variable number" as it is constantly changing depending on the amount of
    action in the movie. This is the reason that DVD players cannot support the
    displaying of remaining rime."
    [/quote]
> 3. Since Standby mode does not get invoked when a DVD finishes playing,
> the static DVD menu page comes back, would it be possible to include a
> screensaver with upcoming models. RPTV owners are a little paranoid about
> static images appearing on their sets for any length of time due to
> burn-in.
> A screensaver would be selling feature.
  • quote:
    "[IMS...CustomerCare] We have already passed this information on to
    our DVD Marketing group for their records."
    [/quote]
Comments or additions to the FAQ, much appreciated.
Hdtvguy
[Edited last by DanG on August 25, 2001 at 09:46 PM]
[Edited last by DanG on August 25, 2001 at 09:48 PM]
 

DanG

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Double post during HTF's technical difficulties today.
[Edited last by DanG on August 17, 2001 at 10:26 PM]
 

DanG

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Never mind again, triple post during HTF's technical difficulties today.
[Edited last by DanG on August 17, 2001 at 10:27 PM]
 

Billy Fogerty

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I really want to get this player, but it seems to need alot of tweaking. I can't understand why it would need all of that. It plays dvd's right? Isn't that what it,s supposed to do? Also I have heard that the manual is very badly written.
 

DanG

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I plugged mine in, got a picture, couldn't figure out why it wasn't progressive, read the manual and pushed the Progressive button and I had movies.
Doesn't sound too hard eh?(Forgive my Canadian)
Badly written is not an opinion I share totally, but to compensate, thats why I wrote the FAQ, info garnered from a lot of knowlegable users in these forums.
If you read the FAQ you will figure out I made two settings in a machine that has a plethora of them. Digital Picture mode to N and Transfer mode to AUTO2 and I have movies.
Doesn't sound too hard eh?
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RAF

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This is the reason that DVD players cannot support the displaying of remaining time
Dan,
But how come all my other dvd players support time remaining for movies? This response sounds like techobabble to me.
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Carlo_M

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RAF,
I wholeheartedly agree. The time component is not linked with the VBT of a DVD. Or else Panasonic is the ONLY company who hasn't figured out how to do the time remaining as the Toshiba and Sony players I've owned do the time remaining flawlessly.
 

DanG

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I didn't put this in the update but I will say it now:
Don't SHOOT the messenger!
I know, it makes no sense to me either. Maybe they should've let the ENG's that did the Genesis tweaks do the Time Display functions.
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