Panasonic RP-61 not being released?

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  1. RyanDinan

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    I heard that Panasonic has dropped the RP-61, and will not be shipping the unit. I guess they feel that it would lower the sales of the RP-91's. So I guess it's a pick between RP-91 and RP56?
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    Where did you hear that? I viewed the 'RP61 as the replacement for the Panasonic DVD-A7 and the 'RP91 as the replacement for the Technics DVD-A10. However, the 'RP91 is not nearly as expensive as the 'A10 was when it was introduced. The 'RP61 and 'RP91 are fairly close in expected street price. If the 'RP61 has indeed been cancelled, maybe Matsushita (the parent company of Panasonic and Technics) felt that having two progressive-scan DVD-Audio players separated in price by about $200 was overkill, especially with the 'RP56 available as another progressive-scan model. Maybe they should have offered a budget interlaced DVD-Audio player. For around $200, they would sell it. It would compete favorably to Pioneer's DV-440, which doesn't offer DVD-Audio, and Sony's budget models, which don't offer SACD.
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    I've been told that Panasonic Canada was getting their initial shipment this week. Mind you, it's late as it was supposed to be released in mid-July, but the RP-61 is coming.
    I should be getting my player in the next 2 weeks. Looking forward to it. It's been a long wait.
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    I noticed that Crutchfield does not have the 'RP61 on its web site, but they do have the 'RP56 and 'RP91. Seeing as Crutchfield has added many new products on its web site in the past couple of weeks, I thought they would have added the 'RP61 too. Maybe they aren't carrying it?
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    Over at the Sony HS10 yahoogroup, one of our members mentioned that a source over at One Call said that Panasonic dropped their plan to release the RP-61...
    I hope not...It's got everything I want - and the price is great.. I feel like the RP-91 (while a great unit) it just too much of an overkill for me.... I dont need/want DVD-RAM playback...who uses that anyway?
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    Looks like it might be true.
    Onecall has removed the 61 from their site.
    Disappointing, as I have no interest in ponying up an additional $200 for the 91. Guess they won't get my money... [​IMG]
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    It's true [​IMG]
    After J&R dropped my order just like ECost did, I called Panasonic. They said it wasn't disc and had me call Sound Center 800 530 7227.
    They explained that Panasonic never commerically released the 61 in the US and now cancelled 4 models for us release. This is one of them.
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    A local store is advertising the RP-61 at a SRP of $299.
    Update. I just called the store and they said they would be getting them in next week. Take it for what it's worth.
    Jay
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    Jay,
    Have you checked to see if they actually have any?
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    Well, crap.
    I guess it's the RP56...
    Has it ever been confirmed whether it has a 27MHz/10bit or 54Mhz/10bit video D/A converter? On Panasonic's site, they have 54Mhz listed on one page, then 27MHz listed on the other....?
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    Ryan, the RP56 is definitely 10-bit, 54MHz. Panasonic is also using the coveted Sage (Faroujda) FLI2200 in the RP56.
    The Toshiba SD4700 (pro-scan, DVD-A) is still in the works, now scheduled for late October availability. The price was just reduced too, to $449 Canadian.
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    Wow - No kidding?!
    I heard that Panasonic used a difference MPEG decoder, so the RP-56 DOES have the chroma upsampling bug...Is this true? If it uses the Sage chipset, that may outweigh the chroma bug....The DVD shootout seemed to favor the Sage chipset over the Silicon Image and Genesis...
    Too bad this unit doesn to DVD-A....My new Denon 3802 is itchin' for some [​IMG]
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    Why would Panasonic use an obviously superior deinterlacer chip on the lower priced model? Weird, if true. Are you sure you're not thinking of the new Philips or Kenwood players? I bet it's still the Genesis chip.
    However the chroma upsampling bug has to do with the MPEG-2 decoder, which is Panasonic's own... so no chroma bug on the RP-56 I'd bet.
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    I read on the DVD Shootout, that all DVD players that have the Sage chipset, will be marked by a DCDi logo. However, the Philips Q50 player that was tested did not have this mark at all....I can't tell if the Panasonic RP56 does or not...The picture of it is too low-res....
    If its true, I think Ill pick one up! But it does sound suspiciously weird to have it on a lower-end model...
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    Ryan, www.crutchfield.com has quality pictures of the DVD-RP56. There is no DCDi logo on the front panel. Also, the front panel says "54MHz 10bit VIDEO DAC".
    By the way, did anyone notice that the 'RP56 has a subwoofer output next to the analog stereo outputs? That seems unusual to me. I've only seen a subwoofer output on DVD players with 5.1-channel outputs. Does this mean that you can set the speaker size in the 'RP56 to small or large and indicate that you have a subwoofer for CD playback? Of course, one can do this with a receiver when using a digital connection.
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    Well, contrary to my last post in this thread, the RP-61 HAS been cancelled. I was told they were have to many problems with it and were not going to release it.
    I've put in an order for the RP-91 instead and hope to get it soon.
    Norm
     
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    Norm, "too many problems"? Interesting, though who knows what that really means. In this day and age, I don't think making a progressive-scan DVD-Audio player for around $300 is rocket science. Just ask JVC. I don't know how good the JVC models are, but if JVC can do it, then certainly Matsushita (Panasonic) can do it. My feeling is that Matsushita could do it better than JVC. Just my $0.02.
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    You can't believe how happy I am that someone took a picture of this! No matter how many times I tell people that I read the chip with my own eyes, nobody seems to want to believe me!
    I have both an RP91 and an RP56 at my disposal, but I haven't done an A/B comparison yet.
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