I just bought the Panasonic DMR-E80HS Progressive-Scan DVD Video Recorder with 80GB Hard Disk for $485.09 after eCost.com rebate! [$509.99+FREE SHIPPING+$5.10 HANDLING=$515.09-$30.00=$485.09] I was trying to do some research before buying... but all of the GOOD INFO is locked away on forums like this. so, I became a member, just to find out people's experiences with the DMR-E80HS. well, the registration took too long for me (I have about as much patience as a nat when it comes to buying something I want) so I just bought it without really finding out any GOOD info on it. but now, after getting my "approval" for the forum (which made SEARCHING for the DMR-E80HS possible) it would seem that I got myself a pretty damn nice machine! I have also had a great time reading everyone's experience with it, and I am sure it will help me greatly for when it arrives. THANKS!