Pan & scanning: Home theater buffs get last laugh.

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  1. Patrick McCart

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    When pan & scanned transfers of films are made (not including no-CGI, open matte films!!!), the studio has to pay someone to shift the telecine camera back and forth!
    Letterboxed movies don't need a pan & scanner, so it actually costs more to make a pan & scan DVD!
    Consider the amount of pan & scanning WB had to do with Cats and Dogs...with all those CGI shots....
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    Wonka, on the other hand needed no such work, so it makes you wonder why 2 transfers wasn't on the disc.
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    Dont know much about the technical aspects of DVD...but that sounds right. Maybe they can charge a premium for the P&S discs? [​IMG]
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    I've seen mentioned in other threads that P&S for DVD is moot since it's being created for PPV, Premium cable/DSS, regular cable/DSS, and VHS. It's a neat little theory though.
    HT buffs will get the last laugh when we don't have to repurchase films that had seperate releases (Mummy, Remember the Titans, etc) when we upgrade to a 16/9 TV.
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    It all comes down to economies of scale. The same argument is brought up in discussions on anime and dubs versus subtitles. It may be more expensive to make a dub than to simply subtitle a show, but the number of dubs sold will vastly outnumber the number of subtitled versions sold (at least when we were talking videotape). Consequently, the smart financial choice was for companies to make dubs and stores to carry them if they wanted a lot of sales. With DVD, the argument was rendered largely moot, as two audio tracks is a snap on DVD. You'd think the same would apply for pan & scam and widescreen, but studios apparently don't think that way. A large majority of the audience will buy a title even if it is pan & scam; we film buffs may not, but we don't usually rate compared to the majority in terms of dollars. It's not a fun thought, but it's true. There are rare cases where we can make a difference, like Wonka (hopefully), but Warner will do whatever they think will make them cash, regardless of whether it makes sense.
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    You would think catering to the average consumer and the niche market would be much easier now, since they are both adopting DVD, thus only one format to deal with. Also, more people are adopting the preferences of the niche market, making support of it even more worth while.
     
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    What I don't get is how the studios justify screwing over the HT enthusiasts. We buy more disks per month than J6P does in a quarter, but because they are more of them than us they get preferential treatment. It might seem like they are making more money of them but J6P usually just rents or buys their absolute favorites while HT fanatocs usually buy dvds just for the hell of it or to get their fix in addition to buying their favorites.
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    The news just has to sink in to WB that they're losing sales...lots of sales...and things will change. The situation, while desperate, is not hopeless.
    We simple must not buy non-widescreen DVDs. Maybe we are a minority, but something tells me that this "minority" buys more DVDs than the majority does.
    I think that WB has commissioned some very bad market research. Time will tell. Maybe, if things break our way, heads will roll. It's amazing how the change of a single executive can turn things around in Hollyweird.
    You can bet that several key people are currently looking at a petition that translates into 11,000+ lost sales and thinking, "Gee, did I f*** up?" And so are their bosses, and so are the shareholders.
    In fact, WB's share price was in the high-50s in late May. Now it's hanging around in the $40 range. They are desperate to get that stock up and that could be why they're grasping at the straw of "market research."
    If we are right (and HT enthusiasts' dollars count for more than J6P's), the Wonka release will come in under WB's predictions, someone will be fired (or "move on to other opportunities") and this whole P&S-only fiasco will fade into history.
    If we are wrong and Wonka sells well, we are screwed and widescreen, anamorphic presentation is in danger of extinction from all studios until J6P buys into widescreen television.
    Perilous times. Buy accordingly!
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