Outlaw vs. "other good brands"

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  1. MichaelDDD

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    This is a discussion-type thread...well, not that ALL threads aren't discussion...anyway, onto the thread.

    Been checking out HT receivers lately online.

    Went to Outlaw's site. I have never heard an Outlaw Pre-pro or amp, but the reviews seem good and enough of you guys use them.

    I know Outlaw has a "lower end line" and then they have the "good stuff" such as the 950.

    Using the 950 as our example ($800) for essentially an AM/FM tuner/signal processor, can you do better for the same money?

    I know many things about equipment are subjective; i.e. the color. Some like black, others silver.

    But I'm talking purely specifications here. Features, S/N ratio, freq response, preout voltages etc.

    What about Outlaws' powered 5.1 receiver, the 1050 for $500? How does it compare to say, a Denon/Onkyo/Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood $500 receiver?

    The Outlaw line seems to use some "non-mainstream" proprietary Dolby/DTS decoder chips. Are these as good as what comes in the brands mentioned above?

    Discuss.
     
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    I'm amazed that Outlaw has not released a balanced connection version of the 950.

    Now for the subject at hand, I'd say the answer is no due to there not being any other product new that packs as much features for the price. If one doesn't mind used, only needs 5.1 (maybe SAF might not allow more speakers), and don't require component video switching (maybe the TV has enough) then it might be possible to find an older used model online that might be cheaper and outperforms it.
     
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    Interesting responses.

    I'm not well-versed in outboard amplification, but I've noticed at least with pro-sound oriented amps that they all have XLR-ins, and most don't have RCA-ins...makes it quite the PITA to use those amps with HT gear.

    I'd consider the 950 fairly high-end...I too wondered why it didn't have XLR inputs. I've read several print reviews on high-end prepros (in the $2K range) and they all have XLR inputs AND RCA inputs. Makes you wonder.

    I didn't know that the Cirrus decoders were that popular...nice piece of kit, the 950. Wish I could afford the whole thing! (950 + outboard amplification)
     
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    looking for a pure pre, nothing competes with outlaw on a prce/feature basis...maybe the new NAD will...but I doubt it...

    i wonder about the 1050, its very dated, i doubt they sell a lot of them anymore...

    Robert, i dont think outlaw is going to have balanced connections anytime soon...none of their amps have it...and nothing in their price range or immediately above it, (adcom, rotel, outlaw cones) does...
     
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    I agree that outlaw will never put balanced connections on the 950, nor is it necessary. If they did put XLR on the 950, people would get confused and wonder why it was not on their amps and then their sales might suffer. I would look at some older pre/pros used. I just picked up a highly rated chiro c-800 thx pro logic processor at a great price. If you don't care about dts-es, dd-ex, and pro logic II, these type of units are great. Some, like the rotel and chiro have a db-25 connector that acts as a multi-channel input (with a handy adapter cable) so you can run an outboard dts/dd processor. I think this rivals the sound of many of the new pre/pros. Getting one of these for around $200 gave me some extra cash to introduce an outlaw ICBM into the mix. I'm running a dvd player with built in dvd-audio, sacd, dts, dd, so it sounds amazing. A great way to enjoy seperates on a budget...
     
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    I feel their are a number of options to consider in this price point. A number of receivers will compete and outperform the Outlaw pre/pro. Take a listen and decide.

    Lewis,

    Their are no licencing fees for Dolby. I am not sure about DTS.
     
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    Nothing could be more simple than that set up. The only "extra" cables needed are to the ICBM, a unit many (including myself) deem to be necessary with almost any receiver or pre/pro. I also should have clarified the db-25 adapter. It is actually simply a serial type cable that goes into 6 rca plugs. It is actually much more simple to hook up than 6 individual rcas.
     
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