Outlaw 950 vs Denon 3802? (1 Viewer)

[TomH]

Based on what we know about the Outlaw 950 which will not be available until October, How would the 3802 used as a pre/pro compare? Features and cost are similar.
Also,
The Outlaw update for July is up.
Tom

 

[Ed_A]

Couple of questions for you...
I noticed on Outlaws website that the 1050 is referred to as a "Digital A/V Receiver", while the new Outlaw Model 950 is a "Preamp/Processor". I'm a bit confused (but I usually am anyways). What's the difference?
Aren't they both "receivers"?
Thanks.
Ed

 

[Steve_D]

This is the big question. I've been researching entry separate pre/pros and keeping in mind the Denon 3801/2.
So far, I'm still waiting on the Outlaw 950. Software upgradeable, full analog bypass, 24/192 DACS, and all the latest processing should be very hard to beat in the under $1000 price range. Heck, almost all the under $2000 pre/pros have some caveats attached to them, and most had spotty reliability/quality control/software bugs in the first year or so of being offered, some of those issues still haunt them.
I hope Outlaw can avoid these early issues. In fact, with my help as a beta tester (Outlaw hint), I'm sure they can.....

Ed,
No, the 950 does not have amplifiers. This is the difference between a receiver (with built in amps) and a pre/pro where you have to use external amps.
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[TomH]

The 1050 is a receiver which includes 5 channels of amplification for $499.00. The 950 is a preamp/processor which is similar to a receiver without the onboard amps. Note that the 950 will be priced at around $900. which would imply better quality than the pre/pro used in the 1050. The 950 also has a more current feature set.
For example, the Denon 3802 is a Receiver with a full feature set and pre-outs. You can use it as a pre/pro by connecting to an external amplifier and bypassing the onboard amps. Due to mass production efficiency and high sales quantities the Denon pre/pro section may be nearly comparable to the Outlaw 950.
Tom

 

[GregoriusM]

I'm sure we'd all be surprised at how many people are using the Denon 3801 as a pre-pro. It is great sounding and has all of the latest "do dads". Except DPL2, which will be in the 3802.
I know many a Denon 3300 is being used as a pre-pro.

 

[TomH]

Are the 3801 and 3802 considered 6.1 or 7.1 receivers?
What is required for DVD-A?
Tom

 

[Henry Carmona]

Yes they are both 6.1 or seven speaker capable receivers.
You need a DVD audio player.
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[Todd Hochard]

DVD-A requires a preamp or receiver with a 6 channel analog input.
The 950 will have this, as does the 3801/3802 (and the 3300 as well). I am unsure as to how the 950 will handle bass management of the 6-channel analog signal.
Todd