I'm about to buy my first HT receiver. I have narrowed it down to these two models. I'm giving my pros and cons here in the hope someone can offer some additional insight before I spend $500 and regret it later! I'm still looking for that "aha!" moment when the choice becomes clear. Outlaw: Pros: 1. Many positive reviews (Stereophile, etc.) must infer this unit IS something special? 2. Heavy duty build quality infers the direct sale approach is paying for a design out of the reach of the same price in the dealer channel. Cons: 1. No DPL II (sidebar; since DPL II (and DPL) is essentially an artificial format, since no original stereo recordings were originally mixed in 5 channels, is this something the stereo purist would avoid anyway?) 2. 6.1 decoding is proprietary, not DS EX or DTS ES 3. Lack of inputs? (Doesn't concern me much, see below) 4. Leap of faith, since I can't listen to it first? Denon: Pros: 1. Denon 1802 reviewd as "best receiver under $500" by CHT; can we infer the 1802, which replaces it, will offer the same performance? 2. Has authentic DPL II, DS EX, etc. Cons: 1. No critical acclaim (i.e. reviews)yet. I should also add that the winner will be used for CD & vinyl (yes I do have a turntable still, and yes, I know the Denon has a phono input, but I already have an RIAA equalizer, so this is not such an issue) at least as much as HT. We have vitually no prerecorded video tapes (although we rent/borrow them from public library; a switch to DVD will come once we figure this all out), we don't have cable or DSS (and don't plan to). Hence it needs to serve double duty as HT and main audio system, as we don't have the budget for a separate audio system. So, that's my thinking. I'd love to hear some reasoned, insightful commentary from wiser souls on the forum. Thanks!