I've been looking around the net,reading the threads, and researching the prices. I came down to these two based on the opinions of others. My current reciever is a bottom end JVC 6020, which basically plays well but has no bottom end for bass.(this is based on comparing it to my Luxman L-235)The JVC is bright and cannot light up the bass like the Luxman can. So I've read that the Onkyo and the HK both have bottom end power. I like the 6.1 on the Onkyo but the HK name brand is where it is at... Now I would like some opinions on these two recievers...such as eaze of set-up, actual bottom end power (sound) and so forth.